Is there a more modern midsize Guzzi styled like V700/Ambo/Eldo?

[texasmoto]

Maybe cause some people are tired of replacing:

And maybe for them $10k is play money but time isn't...

Yes but you can buy a fully restored vintage bike for less than 10k and you won’t have to do any replacing. Apart from maybe the ignition timing, which if you upgrade to electronic you’ll have at least 10k maintenance free miles.

[Kev m]

Yes but you can buy a fully restored vintage bike for less than 10k and you won’t have to do any replacing. Apart from maybe the ignition timing, which if you upgrade to electronic you’ll have at least 10k maintenance free miles.

I'm happily down to my last personal carburetor, in my generator. Glad I don't have any others to drain every fall (or every use).

Even of I bought a restored upgraded antique the only thing it would excel at is looks and perhaps weight.

No I'm good.

[Antietam Classic Cycle]

I never drain the gas from any of my gasoline powered engines (Echo trimmer, Husqvarna blower, two Lawn-Boy mowers, two Gravely tractors, Guzzi and Morini, and run E10 in all. Never any carburetor issues. <shrug>

[tazio]

I've found that the ride experience of older machines can bring a deep satisfaction.
But for some, there will always be a more "capable" appliance coming along.
It is nice to have choices in our hobbies..

[Bulldog9]

I never drain the gas from any of my gasoline powered engines (Echo trimmer, Husqvarna blower, two Lawn-Boy mowers, two Gravely tractors, Guzzi and Morini, and run E10 in all. Never any carburetor issues. <shrug>

I only drained mine if the motor is going to sit for longer than a year or two. And even then I will run a hefty dose of seafoam through the final running, and fog the motor. I have two old Yamahas that I've owned since the early '80s. They had those terrible manuki CV carbs. People don't believe me but I never once opened either of them from the early '80s until I took them off the road in 2012. Always used seafoam in the fuel, never an issue. Same with my 1976 Porsche with Dellorto carburetors. That motor off and sits for 6 to 9 months at a time.

Come to think of it, I've never trained the carbs on my gas backpack blower or trimmer over the last 10 years. I just use the Stihl premix oil in the gas and go.

[Bulldog9]

It seems to be a result of the single throttle body intake and very difficult to tune out. Personally, I believe it has more to do with the actual throttle body design than having just one throttle body. I ride 90% of the time in firth or top gear above 45 mph, so I am not bothered that much.

You are free to do your own thing, but you'd be wise to heed the advice of the members on this board who have multiple decades of experience with Moto Guzzi motors and motorcycles.

Argue or reason as you like, but 2,000 RPM IS lugging the motor. A Guzzi is a VTwin, but NOT a Harley. They are designed to rev. 6th gear at 45mph?! Get a Harley already..... Sure we all may putt at below 3k around town or light cruising on occasion, but the real joy and charm of these motors is the 4-7k range, not to mention wear and damage to the drivetrain. Most don't hit top gear(s) unless they are in the 60+ MPH range.

But YMMV.... Do as you like as we all do

[John A]

On big blocks I’ve always treated 4th gear as overdrive and fifth as double over. It’s worked well for multiple hundreds of thousands of miles. About twenty years ago I changed and started to use a higher gear , letting torque pull me around and was surprised to see how quickly drive line wear became apparent. The engine didn’t care but the driveshaft , clutch , transmission and bevel box suffered. That stuff gets expensive so after I fixed it, I thought I should tape off the tachometer below 4K rpm to remind me . I don’t have enough miles on a small block to say how much it affects them but I assume it’s similar.

[Kev m]

I never drain the gas from any of my gasoline powered engines (Echo trimmer, Husqvarna blower, two Lawn-Boy mowers, two Gravely tractors, Guzzi and Morini, and run E10 in all. Never any carburetor issues. <shrug>

I last needed my generator ~3 years ago ... You think that would be the same result?

[Mwether]

Enjoying the detour into ethanol. 

I put Stabil Storage in both cans (regular for the mower and mix gas for the chainsaw, blower, weedeater) and I've had zero problems. Good stuff.

https://www.goldeagle.com/product/sta-bil-fuel-stabilizer/

[guzzisteve]

I have cleaned mass amount of carbs on Guzzi's that were stored w/Stabil. It dries & leaves a white chalky residue. The product sucks if left too long. Go marine and use Startron it dries clean.

[John A]

I’ve tried auto transmission oil in small engines and V65 C. I inject it into a t on the gas line or mix some in the gas. This is the first time and so far it seems to do the trick but haven’t started the C yet this spring . The mower and generator started right up with a little smoke.

[Bulldog9]

I have cleaned mass amount of carbs on Guzzi's that were stored w/Stabil. It dries & leaves a white chalky residue. The product sucks if left too long. Go marine and use Startron it dries clean.

Agreed, the Marine stabil is much better and StarTron is also good but I've also had great luck with seafoam. By the time I get back East the Stornello and GRiSO will have been sitting (with seafoam) for 2 years. Hopefully with FI they will fire right up.

After I retire this year, I plan to bring both of those Yamahas back to life. They've been in climate controlled storage since 2012 or 2013. I do plan a full rebuild and refresh of the carburetors but it will be interesting to see what the residue in the bowls and Jets look like from the seafoam.

[guzzisteve]

Good luck, thy should fire right up. No fuel goes through the throttle bodies on those. Only ones close is Cal's and early SB & V11's. Haven't seen any bad from SeaFoam. Green goo gets cut w/fuel easy, cleans right out.

[Mwether]

Good to hear the positive experiences with Seafoam; I'll buy some when I next need gas treatment. 

Guess I've been lucky with Stabil. I've had no carb problems after using it for more than a decade in at least four engines. Then again, the equipment sits for six to nine months max...

[guzzisteve]

I don't know about this hi tech stuff, I almost bailed it was so frightening. Dash bulb out on lites high beam indicator.
4 screws, lift up & un screw speedo drive, flip over dash, pull out bulb & replace. I used a 4W & replaced a 2.2W, Looked all the same brightness so I must have done the rest already. Can't remember last time I done this but lites didn't work yesterday so I noticed the bulb. I spun  a fuse for lites to work. Had to pull 1 rim screw and look at board in bucket. 5 minutes & 10 for bulb change.
Nice to ride old crap, 67V700 Patina Queen.  Won oldest bike in WI in 92 or 3 at the rally. Came down to pulling cards out of a deck. I got a Jack & other guy a 10. Real nice milking farmer from Green Bay area.