Super prices for new 2024 v7s at Cadre Cycle

[kingoffleece]

https://wildguzzi.com/forum/index.php?topic=123728.0

Here's one out of the crate.
Several of us have purchased Guzzi motorcycles sight unseen from know reputable dealers.  Three times for me.  Never a surprise.
Seriously.  Not being a wise guy.  A buyer interested in a bike wouldn't go see the bike?  They'd think the bike would be different from the stock picture?  You'd have to see the exact bike before you drove there to look it over?  If so, is the picture critical?  It's a new machine.

I've uncrated bikes several times at a dealership.  If 24 came in it would take me a week, especially at a small dealership.  One gets pulled away several times a day for other things.

Anyway, MMV depending on buyer.

[PeteS]

https://wildguzzi.com/forum/index.php?topic=123728.0

Here's one out of the crate.
Several of us have purchased Guzzi motorcycles sight unseen from know reputable dealers.  Three times for me.  Never a surprise.
Seriously.  Not being a wise guy.  A buyer interested in a bike wouldn't go see the bike?  They'd think the bike would be different from the stock picture?  You'd have to see the exact bike before you drove there to look it over?  If so, is the picture critical?  It's a new machine.

I've uncrated bikes several times at a dealership.  If 24 came in it would take me a week, especially at a small dealership.  One gets pulled away several times a day for other things.

Anyway, MMV depending on buyer.

^^^^^^ This
Last two purchases were sight unseen. Even the dealer didn’t have one at the time of purchase. Have a commitment to purchase another hopefully in the next few weeks.

Pete

[ridingron]

I am also in the, "show me an actual pic, not a stock photo" camp. Sitting here trying to come up with an explanation why I can't quite decide, it's just my gut feeling

For a brand new bike, stock photo works.

A used bike? I need at least a half dozen photos, preferably more. I bought 4 bikes sight unseen. 3 of them were bikes I was very familiar with. The 4th bike was a 3 year old/1200 mile model that was as pictured. I have been satisfied with all but 1 of my purchases and very happy with a couple of them.

[Trialsman]

I bought two V85TTs from Enzo in '21.  I didn't see them till we picked them up.  It was no problem - they were NEW bikes.  I'm sure if you wanted a current photo of a particular bike, he would be more than happy to oblige you.  You would be hard pressed to find a more honest dealer.

[Vagrant]

Gutsy on Enzo's part to get 24 of them, and maybe just a bit hoggish.   

This isn't his first rodeo! He has done this big closeout buy many times and sells them all to lucky owners. I bought a 23 Guardian of the Orieos last year from him. Great deal. No BS charges. As I recall, it was $800 for freight and $50 for the title. Mostly because Ohio makes him title it to the new owner with an Ohio title to eliminate paying sales tax there. You pay that at home. Fantastic dealer, and he will deliver it, I think, 200 miles for free.

[bad Chad]

Sometimes posting with you guys is like playing Telephone.   I didn’t say he had 24 motorcycles for sale at $6,500!  I said that he has 24, as short for 2024, that’s why they are $6,500 and not thousands more like the 26s!    Sometimes I wonder why I even bother?

[blu guzz]

That's really funny Chad.  We are 2 pages in and you drop the bomb on us that we have been kibbutzing about the incorrect meaning to your post.
My hat's off to you sir, I don't use emojis so I just have to say, I appreciate the irony.

[SIR REAL ED]

Wild1, why are you fighting this battle??

If you or anyone, anywhere are interested in exactly what stock on hand, all need be done is make a phone call, or send them an email. From experience, I can tell you they will get right back to you with whatever you need, photos, vin numbers etc.

And, as pointed out, they aren’t targeting “moto Guzzi forum”,  it’s the dealers website we are discussing. 

Now I have said enough, I’m laying down my pen/sword and leaving this fight. 😂  I wish you well.

Bad Chad,

Never, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever surrender!

Lick your wounds, rub some dirt on them, and get back in the fight!

The world needs directions and supervision now more than ever!

If not you, who?  If not now, when?

 

[SIR REAL ED]

Sometimes posting with you guys is like playing Telephone.   I didn’t say he had 24 motorcycles for sale at $6,500!  I said that he has 24, as short for 2024, that’s why they are $6,500 and not thousands more like the 26s!    Sometimes I wonder why I even bother?

Just remember Bro, you only hurt the ones you love.....

[kballowe]

I rode the new V7 Sport yesterday and in discussing specifics, the freight is now $800.  This is where they have tucked in the tariff charges instead of raising the base cost of the bikes, I was told.

The new tariff rates are mid-2025.  I would think that these 2024 bikes were under the old rates.  A technical point, I know.

[Moparnut72]

If anyone is looking for a new bike now is the time to grab it. Anything coming into the country now is going to be tariffed. If I am up to date an increase of 10% will be added to the price. With the somewhat small margins on new bikes I don't think dealer will be able to absorb much.
kk

[kballowe]

..... and the tariff is calculated based on the declared value of the goods at the point of import, not on the retail price at which they’re sold.

[kidsmoke]

Those are stock images and potential customers want to see the actual bikes being offered. Maybe it's the reason they still have 2024 models.

Cadre is the shop Piaggio USA appeals to to move out inventory, because of their capability and reputation. Despite being in an out of the way locale with a shop about the size of subdivision ranch build from 1972, they've been among the top sellers of Moto Guzzi's (exclusive - not a Piaggio franchise), top meaning top three in North America. So yeah...not a ton of dosh being directed at Web presence, but it shows up in the transaction and the support. Just sayin'

Give them a call if you're interested in a bike and I'm certain you'll feel supported as a potential customer.

[Kev m]

Cadre is the shop Piaggio USA appeals to to move out inventory, because of their capability and reputation. Despite being in an out of the way locale with a shop about the size of subdivision ranch build from 1972, they've been among the top sellers of Moto Guzzi's (exclusive - not a Piaggio franchise), top meaning top three in North America. So yeah...not a ton of dosh being directed at Web presence, but it shows up in the transaction and the support. Just sayin'

Give them a call if you're interested in a bike and I'm certain you'll feel supported as a potential customer.

I think Cadre is the latest in a long list of shops that Piaggio used to do that.

In the past that honor went to Moto International and a few years ago it was Extreme in Accident MD.

[bad Chad]

I hear what you're saying Kev.  But I believe Cadre has been doing what they do, as a MG only dealer since 2011, so 14 years and they seem to have made a mark on the market.

[Kev m]

I hear what you're saying Kev.  But I believe Cadre has been doing what they do, as a MG only dealer since 2011, so 14 years and they seem to have made a mark on the market.

I have every respect for them. I think they're the real deal and I'm not criticizing. I'm just saying Piaggio has a history of selling one dealer bikes at a price lower than any of the others each year and sadly it screws up the market for the rest. But it would be silly of the selected dealer not to take the offer.

[ridingron]

They do seem to move bikes! I don't recall hearing from a dissatisfied customer.

They must be doing something right.

[red stripeguz]

FWIW AF1 has a couple 24 V7s for same price, and a Corsa for $500 more

[JJ]

I like THIS ONE!!

[Clifton]

I like the Corsa too!

I think the 2025 V85 Strada at $10,500 is a more versatile and better overall motorcycle than the 2026 V7 Sport that costs $200 more.

[Kev m]

I think the 2025 V85 Strada at $10,500 is a more versatile and better overall motorcycle than the 2026 V7 Sport that costs $200 more.

But it's still a V85 so no thanks. I'll take the "better" to me V7 Sport all day long

[Clifton]

Yes I'm aware you don't like V85's. I like both but given the V85's nicer suspension, a bit more power, a little roomier and more versatile, the case can be made. Styling for both is of course subjective and certainly enters into one's ultimate decision.

[SIR REAL ED]

But it's still a V85 so no thanks. I'll take the "better" to me V7 Sport all day long

In your humble, but very much venerated opinion, what are the differences that tip the scale one way or the other?

[PeteS]

No one has made note that 2024 V100S is selling for $5k less than list for the 2025s. Pretty impressive discount.

Pete

[Kev m]

In your humble, but very much venerated opinion, what are the differences that tip the scale one way or the other?

It's completely personal preference, like a Brazilian percent subjective.

But for me:

* Looks.
* Seat height (I don't need low, but I like it).
* Easier access to air cleaner.
* In all previous versions I've ridden I prefer the way the V7s are tuned, I just prefer the feel of the motor.
* I don't really ride off-road or fire trails and even if I did around here the V85 would be just as useless in the deep sugar sand.
* It's more fun to do more with less. And that even goes for the suspension. I don't really need the USD forks, but I like them. I definitely don't need the V85 suspension.

[blu guzz]

Kev:  If you liked the 24 and earlier V7s you are going to love the sport when you ride it.  It takes all the things you already love and makes them even better, especially the power delivery lower in the range.

[kingoffleece]

Trust me. Piaggio USA is so unbelievable to deal with I have NO CLUE how dealers do it.  It's not nearly as simple as "yea, I'll take them".  That's not even in the same ballpark as to what's required.

[Dave Swanson]

Kev:  If you liked the 24 and earlier V7s you are going to love the sport when you ride it.  It takes all the things you already love and makes them even better, especially the power delivery lower in the range.

Everyone who reviews the new V7s comments about the very noticeable extra punch of the motor.  This extra power while simultaneously meeting the more stringent E5+emission requirements makes me think the Guzzi power train engineers are practicing witchcraft.    Bravo to them!