Thanks all and yes I meant T3 , thanks Charlie, im about to open up a trans for issues and wondered if the mod would be worth the effort and I didnt want to use a tonti drum and change the shift pattern so will stick with what I have , has allways changed well except going into first gear when down changing on the move , stop the bike go into neutral and then select 1st and no problems but to do it without stopping you have to keep pressure on 1st gear for a revolution of the wheel to fully engage . I can place the detent or the blunt end of a drill bit into the detent hole when in all gears and it travels all the way into the drum so im happy with shim adjustment. will replace pawls and springs and the drum pins for the hell of it while im in there