Author Topic: Be careful re this battery  (Read 435 times)

Offline MikeP996

  • Gosling
  • ***
  • Posts: 227
  • Location: UK/USA
Be careful re this battery
« on: August 11, 2026, 08:37:50 AM »
I bought this battery (link below) a couple or months ago for my v7 850.  Last week it would not start the bike and I discovered it had an internal short.  I had purchased it to replace the Motobatt that was in the bike when I bought it a year ago and figured it was a good idea to replace the MotoB since I had no idea how old it was.

Luckily, I had kept it and when the "new" battery wouldn't start the bike I removed the new one  and reinstalled the old Motobatt which started the bike immediately.  The "new" batt is now a paperweight.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B09BZT7BP1?ref_=ppx_hzsearch_conn_dt_b_fed_asin_title_2
« Last Edit: August 11, 2026, 08:38:36 AM by MikeP996 »
2021 Moto Guzzi V7 850 Special (UK)
1976 Honda CB400F (UK)
2017 BMW R1200RS (TX)
'73 Norton Commando (Mexico
2015 BMW R9T (Mexico)
(Wife's bikes:
2015 Ducati Diavel (TX)
2019 Honda Africa Twin  (Mexico)
2021 Honda NC750  (UK)

Offline guzzisteve

  • Gaggle Hero
  • *****
  • Posts: 12966
  • "Just Ride It"
Re: Be careful re this battery
« Reply #1 on: August 11, 2026, 08:42:21 AM »
When you order a batt to be delivered you have no idea who dropped it or tossed it onto a dock. I go to a store for batteries.
"Pray through Carlo & your bike shall be healed"
Location: Planet Earth

Offline Antietam Classic Cycle

  • Gaggle Hero
  • *****
  • Posts: 15102
  • Happily stuck in the past.
    • Antietam Classic Cycle
  • Location: Rohrersville, Maryland
Re: Be careful re this battery
« Reply #2 on: August 11, 2026, 12:05:08 PM »
When you order a batt to be delivered you have no idea who dropped it or tossed it onto a dock. I go to a store for batteries.

If it's packaged properly, no damage will result. I buy almost all of my batteries (probably close to 100 over the past 20 years) from Battery Mart in Winchester, VA and they ship via FedEx. Even though our FedEx drivers seem to be the most inept delivery persons, I've never received a damaged one. Battery Mart packs them very well with thick layers of impact absorbing material.

Of the nearly a dozen "Chrome" batteries I've bought on Amazon, only one had an internal fault. Replaced by the Chrome company, no questions asked.
Charlie

Online Perazzimx14

  • Gaggle Hero
  • *****
  • Posts: 6416
Re: Be careful re this battery
« Reply #3 on: August 11, 2026, 12:05:20 PM »
When you order a batt to be delivered you have no idea who dropped it or tossed it onto a dock. I go to a store for batteries.

And you still do not know who dropped or tossed it onto the dock!

Online DoubleGuzzi

  • Gaggle Hero
  • *****
  • *
  • *
  • *
  • Posts: 856
  • '19 V7III CS; '10 V7C;' 79 V50.(Speed 400)
  • Location: NE Écosse
Re: Be careful re this battery
« Reply #4 on: August 11, 2026, 12:09:47 PM »
That was a good price for that battery, even with the fairly modest Cold Cranking Amps. Claim a return/refund? For a Motobatt replacement, consider an Exide and try to get a high specced CCA, whatever you end up with.
« Last Edit: August 11, 2026, 12:16:26 PM by DoubleGuzzi »
Nearly natural progression..
Past: SS50, Z200, Z250B, Z400J, (H100), GT750, K100, ZR1100, 900 Trident, 955 Sprint ST, (ZR550, M600), 900 ST, (B750).
Present: V7III CS, (V50II), (V7C).

Offline MikeP996

  • Gosling
  • ***
  • Posts: 227
  • Location: UK/USA
Re: Be careful re this battery
« Reply #5 on: August 11, 2026, 12:16:09 PM »
I suspect I "got what I paid for" a battery for about 1/3 the price (and quality) of a new MotoBatt or other equivalent battery.  ;)
2021 Moto Guzzi V7 850 Special (UK)
1976 Honda CB400F (UK)
2017 BMW R1200RS (TX)
'73 Norton Commando (Mexico
2015 BMW R9T (Mexico)
(Wife's bikes:
2015 Ducati Diavel (TX)
2019 Honda Africa Twin  (Mexico)
2021 Honda NC750  (UK)

Online Perazzimx14

  • Gaggle Hero
  • *****
  • Posts: 6416
Re: Be careful re this battery
« Reply #6 on: August 11, 2026, 12:33:56 PM »
I suspect I "got what I paid for" a battery for about 1/3 the price (and quality) of a new MotoBatt or other equivalent battery.  ;)

I bought a GS from a guy in NY. When I got there the battery was dead but he said he ordered me a new one and it would arrive at the house in a few days. Since this was a flipper and I had dealt with the seller before I was all good with it. Battery showed up from Amazon and I looked it up and it cost around $25 for a XTY-14 BS SLA battery with higher than factory CCA + had a 3 year warranty. Put it in the bike and it worked and is probably still working today.


Offline Dr. Enzo Toma

  • Gaggle Hero
  • *****
  • *
  • *
  • Posts: 645
  • Location: Colorado 🇺🇸
Re: Be careful re this battery
« Reply #7 on: August 11, 2026, 01:05:04 PM »
I had my truck in for repair earlier this year and in their courtesy inspection of various points of the vehicle they identified the battery was at a reduced capacity. The battery being just out of warranty, I wanted to get ahead of that before cold starting this winter, and picked up a new Interstate battery from a local brick-and-mortar. That battery went 3 days and then internally shorted. I returned it as defective, replaced it with a NAPA battery because a replacement Interstate battery of that group size wasn't in stock and would have needed to be ordered. I wanted to make sure it wasn't an alternator of voltage regulator issue, but the charging system on the truck tested fine. In going through all that everyone from friends to the folks at the store shared their experiences and the summary was that AGM batteries these days are hit or miss for both autos and motorcycles, and you may be better off replacing upon failure rather than doing a preventative replacement.
2022 Moto Guzzi V7 Stone 850 Centenario
MGNOC Member

Offline Utrider

  • Gaggle Mentor
  • ****
  • *
  • Posts: 294
  • Location: West Haven, Utah
Re: Be careful re this battery
« Reply #8 on: August 11, 2026, 02:18:13 PM »
This is a VERY sensitive subject for me.  I have 9 motorcycles and 4 cars.  It's a NEVER ending thing with batteries!!!  I have tenders and rotate between rigs on a regular basis, but I am replacing at least 2 per year and it doesn't seem to matter how much I spend or what the name on the label is.  I remember the days when a DieHard would last 5+yrs and not lose any voltage.  I understand these new vehicles have all of these nannies and do-good things on them, but really?  Battery technology has to have made strides since then.  I get it, they make more money if they get us to replace these damn things every 2 years or so, but it seems like one of these "genius" MBA's that run one of these companies would figure out that if you get a reputation for building a better battery we will beat a path to your door.  Most of the battery companies (by my understanding) have been gobbled up by a couple of conglomerates and even though they are marketed under "known" names, they are in fact much more similar to each other than they used to be.  End of rant...

On a "what the hell was I thinking" note...I recently purchased a Lucid EV....Love the car, but really!?!?!?

Online Kev m

  • Not your normal Hombre
  • Gaggle Hero
  • *****
  • Posts: 31395
  • Yo from Medford, NJ
Re: Be careful re this battery
« Reply #9 on: August 11, 2026, 02:44:47 PM »
And you still do not know who dropped or tossed it onto the dock!

And this literally remains true no matter from whom you've purchased it.
Current Fleet

18 Guzzi V7III Carbon Dark
13 Guzzi V7 Stone
11 Duc M696

Online michaell32

  • Gosling
  • ***
  • *
  • *
  • *
  • *
  • Posts: 145
  • Location: Salt Lake City
Re: Be careful re this battery
« Reply #10 on: August 11, 2026, 02:50:12 PM »
This is a VERY sensitive subject for me.  I have 9 motorcycles and 4 cars.  It's a NEVER ending thing with batteries!!!  I have tenders and rotate between rigs on a regular basis, but I am replacing at least 2 per year and it doesn't seem to matter how much I spend or what the name on the label is.  I remember the days when a DieHard would last 5+yrs and not lose any voltage.  I understand these new vehicles have all of these nannies and do-good things on them, but really?  Battery technology has to have made strides since then.  I get it, they make more money if they get us to replace these damn things every 2 years or so, but it seems like one of these "genius" MBA's that run one of these companies would figure out that if you get a reputation for building a better battery we will beat a path to your door.  Most of the battery companies (by my understanding) have been gobbled up by a couple of conglomerates and even though they are marketed under "known" names, they are in fact much more similar to each other than they used to be.  End of rant...

On a "what the hell was I thinking" note...I recently purchased a Lucid EV....Love the car, but really!?!?!?
My rule is if it's going to sit for more than a month I disconnect the battery. My thought is none of the batteries in stores are ever connected to a tender and they sit there for a year sometimes. Battery tenders sound good in theory but I trust a full disconnect more.  YMMV.
2003 California EV
2018 Suzuki DR650
78 Honda GL1000

Offline Dr. Enzo Toma

  • Gaggle Hero
  • *****
  • *
  • *
  • Posts: 645
  • Location: Colorado 🇺🇸
Re: Be careful re this battery
« Reply #11 on: August 11, 2026, 03:00:00 PM »
My rule is if it's going to sit for more than a month I disconnect the battery. My thought is none of the batteries in stores are ever connected to a tender and they sit there for a year sometimes. Battery tenders sound good in theory but I trust a full disconnect more.  YMMV.
Many manufacturers recommend exactly that for seasonal storage, disconnecting the battery to eliminate parasitic draw. Then there is just the self discharge rate to worry about. Some even go so far as to recommend removing the battery and storing it climate controlled.
2022 Moto Guzzi V7 Stone 850 Centenario
MGNOC Member

Online SIR REAL ED

  • Gaggle Hero
  • *****
  • *
  • *
  • *
  • *
  • Posts: 3093
  • uh.... it's personal....
  • Location: Forest, VA
Re: Be careful re this battery
« Reply #12 on: August 11, 2026, 07:00:48 PM »


Bizarrely enough, I remember 50-60 years ago, that many batteries in farm tractors and heavy construction equipment lasted 15-20 years or longer.  Even if they were installed in equipment that often was not started for 6-10 weeks at a time.

Check the water level every 6 months or so and you were good to go!

I suspect a lot of that longevity was due to the battery having 4 or 5 times the required amperage needed to start the engine.  Nobody worries about saving weight in tractors, bulldozers, loaders, excavators, etc.
2019 Beta EVO 250
1999 Suzuki DR 650 w/790cc kit
1994, 2001, & 2002 MZ Skorpions

Offline John A

  • Gaggle Hero
  • *****
  • *
  • *
  • Posts: 5409
  • No way to slow down...
  • Location: Hager city ,western WI
Re: Be careful re this battery
« Reply #13 on: August 11, 2026, 11:52:54 PM »
If it's packaged properly, no damage will result. I buy almost all of my batteries (probably close to 100 over the past 20 years) from Battery Mart in Winchester, VA and they ship via FedEx. Even though our FedEx drivers seem to be the most inept delivery persons, I've never received a damaged one. Battery Mart packs them very well with thick layers of impact absorbing material.

Of the nearly a dozen "Chrome" batteries I've bought on Amazon, only one had an internal fault. Replaced by the Chrome company, no questions asked.




I’ve been using Battery Mart as well for a few years with good results https://www.batterymart.com/
John
MGNOC L-471
It is easier to fool people than it is to convince them that they have been fooled-Mark Twain
99 Bassa, sidecar
02 Stone
84 V65C
15 F3S Spyder

Offline MikeP996

  • Gosling
  • ***
  • Posts: 227
  • Location: UK/USA
Re: Be careful re this battery
« Reply #14 on: August 12, 2026, 01:51:59 AM »
Motorcycle batts like the one I posted about originally, are inexpensive and come with the acid packaged separately that you add.  I have used several of that type and none of them have lasted very long though this one is the first that failed so quickly.   Also, although the same size externally, the MotoBatt is much heavier than the replacement batt which also indicates considerably more lead and, therefore, greater capacity and lifespan.  It is also sealed from the factory.  But I figured that the replacement would last at least a couple of years. ;)  I decided that I'll replace the motobatt when it actually fails, not as a "preventive measure"...which failed!
2021 Moto Guzzi V7 850 Special (UK)
1976 Honda CB400F (UK)
2017 BMW R1200RS (TX)
'73 Norton Commando (Mexico
2015 BMW R9T (Mexico)
(Wife's bikes:
2015 Ducati Diavel (TX)
2019 Honda Africa Twin  (Mexico)
2021 Honda NC750  (UK)

Offline turboguzzi

  • Gosling
  • ***
  • Posts: 161
  • Location: Milan, Italy
Re: Be careful re this battery
« Reply #15 on: August 12, 2026, 06:49:09 AM »
When you order a batt to be delivered you have no idea who dropped it or tossed it onto a dock. I go to a store for batteries.

sounds good in theory, but in practice, do you think an installed battery has an easier time when bike is constantly ridden over speedbumps, whasboards and potholed roads?

in my corner of the world, batteries have a 1 yr warranty....online or retail

Being an el cheapo myself, my SP1000 is now 4 years on a cheap lawn mower battery, only thing i did to extend its life is adding a battery isolator switch terminal , seems to help as i ride it only so often due to too many other bikes in the herd



« Last Edit: August 12, 2026, 06:51:06 AM by turboguzzi »

Offline ebeeby

  • New Egg
  • *
  • *
  • Posts: 9
Re: Be careful re this battery
« Reply #16 on: August 12, 2026, 05:10:45 PM »
Well, Chinesium, so....

 

***Wildguzzi Official Logo High Quality 5 Color Window Decals Back In Stock***
Shipping in USA Only. Awesome quality. Back by popular demand. All proceeds go back into the forum.
Best quality vinyl available today. Easy application.
Advertise Here