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Offline Atlanta Guzzi

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Kickstand Repair (The bike leans over to far)
« on: August 25, 2008, 05:40:35 PM »
Well, this is where I..... 

Let me start again.  This is how I.....

Sorry, one more try.  Once upon a time when I....

Ok, I admit it.  I did nothing.   :-[  :D

I mentioned to Wayne about my bike leaning over to far while in the middle of "The great peg-to-floorboard conversion".  He told me what was wrong (soft metal used in the kickstand hardware), took it off, fired up his welder, (added new metal to the components), grounded off the excess metal, added lube to the pivot points, and reassembled it.  I ah....took pictures.  :D

The finished result works great!  If you have the skills and tools I would highly recommend this fix.  Prior to the repair, I was starting to wonder if the whole kickstand was going to give out one day?  After seeing what was going on...it was only a matter of time! :o

So, if you're like me and have never welded anything in your life, contact a welder in town to do the dirty work.  The disassembly/reassembly is fairly easy.   Oh, here are the photos.

(Edit Note: Yikes!  Major challenges with Shutterfly.com.  ::)  Now all the photos of repairs are on one website.)

http://atlantaguzzi.shutterfly.com/



 


« Last Edit: August 26, 2008, 11:00:39 AM by Atlanta Guzzi »
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Re: Kickstand Repair (The bike leans over to far)
« Reply #1 on: August 25, 2008, 05:44:31 PM »
I was considering replacing mine with a chrome HD one :)

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Re: Kickstand Repair (The bike leans over to far)
« Reply #2 on: August 25, 2008, 06:01:21 PM »
Ok, photos are now fixed.


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Re: Kickstand Repair (The bike leans over to far)
« Reply #3 on: August 25, 2008, 06:16:10 PM »
No they're not!

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Re: Kickstand Repair (The bike leans over to far)
« Reply #4 on: August 25, 2008, 07:43:47 PM »
Photos are dead.


grounded off the access metal,

Just so everyone knows, this part is to grind off the horrible bubblegum weld. I'll admit to being a very poor welder.
But then, that is why I have grinders.  ;D


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Re: Kickstand Repair (The bike leans over to far)
« Reply #5 on: August 25, 2008, 07:45:44 PM »
Hope you can get the pictures up, I'm having sidestand problems also
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Re: Kickstand Repair (The bike leans over to far)
« Reply #6 on: August 25, 2008, 09:13:17 PM »
I know exactly what your talking about without the pics... I've been planning to fix mine all summer.
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Re: Kickstand Repair (The bike leans over to far)
« Reply #7 on: August 25, 2008, 09:17:47 PM »
Wish I could see the pics. My Cal Vin leans way over. Need a good fix.

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Re: Kickstand Repair (The bike leans over to far)
« Reply #8 on: August 25, 2008, 09:18:50 PM »
I'd like to see this too.  My stand began to 'sag' with age.  It leaned the bike over so far that it's hard to get back up after a long session.  

For plan "A" I took a torch and cheater to it and changed the angle between the pivot and the arm.  That stood the bike up, but then the stand missed its stop and retracted to a goofy point under the sump somewhere.  So I modified the stop to catch it again.  Now it tucks under the muffler and I can't get my foot on it to deploy it.  I have to make a new kick-knob to extend it or figure out some other way to stop it.   :P

So now I'm trying plan "B", which was to buy a 25-year newer version of the same thing from ebay.  This one needs a new shoe attached.  So I'm really just trading off one set of problems for another.  Having a glimpse of a real 'fix' would help . . .   :)

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Re: Kickstand Repair (The bike leans over to far)
« Reply #9 on: August 26, 2008, 08:19:58 AM »
Would like to see the pics.

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Re: Kickstand Repair (The bike leans over to far)
« Reply #10 on: August 26, 2008, 08:26:15 AM »
My Convert, too, had the lean way over issue. Fixed it by simply bolting on a 1 1/2 inch long section of 1 1/2 inch square tubing to the bottom of the pad. I sure miss that bike!
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Re: Kickstand Repair (The bike leans over to far)
« Reply #11 on: August 26, 2008, 08:44:47 AM »
I know exactly what your talking about without the pics... I've been planning to fix mine all summer.

  Fixing your pics ??? ;D

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Re: Kickstand Repair (The bike leans over to far)
« Reply #12 on: August 26, 2008, 09:50:21 AM »
All fixed...I think.
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Re: Kickstand Repair (The bike leans over to far)
« Reply #13 on: August 26, 2008, 10:23:32 AM »
Ahah!  Thanks!

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Re: Kickstand Repair (The bike leans over to far)
« Reply #14 on: August 26, 2008, 10:28:10 AM »
my old trident doesn't lean anymore after the lug snapped off the frame.  Glad I was there to catch the bike.  i'll have to keep an eye on the stone.
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Re: Kickstand Repair (The bike leans over to far)
« Reply #15 on: August 26, 2008, 10:51:51 AM »
I don't know if it's evident in one of the photos, but the pivot piece (it's a mechanical term.  :D ::)) that Wayne repaired in the pictures was also cutting a groove into the kickstand housing.

Getting a new pivot piece ( ;D), or welding on the one you own, seems to be the first step in solving this problem.  Wayne also welded the inside of the kickstand housing to fix the damage that had occurred internally.

It's a great repair, and actually the kickstand works better now than when it was new.  As a bonus...it was also fun to see somebody melt things and cause sparks to fly!  :D

 
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Re: Kickstand Repair (The bike leans over to far)
« Reply #16 on: May 06, 2015, 06:32:56 PM »
Almost seven years after the penultimate post in this thread, here I am researching this issue. When I had tires put on recently they lubed everything, and cautioned me that now not only does the side stand just fly out, it also goes further, and they might need to weld it up eventually.

It does go uncomfortably far, spoiling my post-shutdown meditative posture. I always wanted to learn to weld, just didn't want to weld for a living.
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Re: Kickstand Repair (The bike leans over to far)
« Reply #17 on: May 06, 2015, 09:29:48 PM »
Almost seven years after the penultimate post in this thread, here I am researching this issue. When I had tires put on recently they lubed everything, and cautioned me that now not only does the side stand just fly out, it also goes further, and they might need to weld it up eventually.

It does go uncomfortably far, spoiling my post-shutdown meditative posture. I always wanted to learn to weld, just didn't want to weld for a living.

Well, you can just buy a new plate. Not as much fun as welding and grinding, but it would help.

http://www.mgcycle.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=73&products_id=371


This MGCycle one is stainless steel and thicker, so it should last a good while.
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