Author Topic: Bit more info for 8V folks planning on rollerising.  (Read 2486 times)

Vasco DG

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Bit more info for 8V folks planning on rollerising.
« on: October 01, 2015, 01:41:58 AM »
Got an enquiry on the Ghetto about part numbers for the shims required for the inlet valves when converting to rollers. The idea being that a 'B' kit plus a few extra bits will be more cheaperer, (Suspender twang!) than buying the 'C' kit for vehicles that require it.

Anyway, I'll cut and paste my observations here for anyone interested but I DO NOT want to have to put up with more sputtering outrage about the whole business, that's been covered, no need to drag it up again like some sort of hideous zombie curse.

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Firstly though the washer part# is 877847, you need four. The valve guide oil seals are #436438 four of those too.

Interestingly though the 2015 models DO NOT use shims under the valve seats and the valve springs have a different #.

Early springs were # 874335 but they have a supercession to 82976R and in the parts list they are NOT listed for models with the early timing system as using a shim. BUT, there is no suggestion that these springs don't need the shims when rollerising.

What is more interesting though is that for 2015 models, already rollerised, there is another new part # for the springs. B013517 and these DO NOT use the under spring seat shims.

The part #'s for valves remain the same so extrapolating from this the new springs are slightly different and therefore DO NOT require the shims.

That being the case, rather than buying the shims, just buy the new springs and fit them in place of the early type?

I would still replace the valve guide oil seals, (You're in there, why wouldn't you?) but while the new springs will probably be slightly more expensive than the shims my first instinct would be to go with them rather than the washers which are by their very nature a compromise.

YOMV.

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Re: Bit more info for 8V folks planning on rollerising.
« Reply #1 on: October 01, 2015, 02:34:41 AM »
or the heads are different machined too. Shims is the safe bet.
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Vasco DG

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Re: Bit more info for 8V folks planning on rollerising.
« Reply #2 on: October 01, 2015, 03:08:22 AM »
That occurred to me later but if that was the case surely simply changing the dimensions of the spring seat would of been the easier option?

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Re: Bit more info for 8V folks planning on rollerising.
« Reply #3 on: October 01, 2015, 05:16:03 AM »
New cylinder head part number as a supercession but only introduced in July this year, that's right hand side, left hand side had a supercession in 2011???

Anyway there doesn't seem to be any evidence that the head changes relate to the spring and shim changes. Latest offerings have the B0 prefix. No idea what that means? New supplier? B0 parts seemed to start about the time of the last flat tappet upgrade.

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Re: Bit more info for 8V folks planning on rollerising.
« Reply #4 on: October 01, 2015, 07:31:41 AM »
Is it only the inlet spring # that changed, or exhaust also?

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Re: Bit more info for 8V folks planning on rollerising.
« Reply #5 on: October 01, 2015, 11:13:55 AM »
All valves use the same springs.

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Re: Bit more info for 8V folks planning on rollerising.
« Reply #6 on: October 01, 2015, 04:42:03 PM »
All valves use the same springs.

Of course, after I was so careful about putting them back where they came from.

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