Author Topic: Difference between frame plates 1100 sport (95) carb and 1992 Daytona  (Read 5754 times)

Offline Johan

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Hi all,

I've just acquired a 1992 Daytona, but found the frame plates have little cracks between the footpeg mounting holes and the rear fork mounting holes. Guess the bike had some rough time, even looking fine for the rest. (no damage on cilinderheads, etc). I'm looking to replace them, but not sure if I can use the frame plates from the 1995 1100 sport carb. They look virtually identical, except the footpeg mount hole. (a round vs a rectangular raised area).

Are they interchangeable?

Johan


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Re: Difference between frame plates 1100 sport (95) carb and 1992 Daytona
« Reply #2 on: April 19, 2016, 01:56:16 PM »
Bolt pattern/location looks different than my 95 1100 sport.

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Re: Difference between frame plates 1100 sport (95) carb and 1992 Daytona
« Reply #3 on: April 19, 2016, 02:01:06 PM »
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the frame plates have little cracks between the footpeg mounting holes and the rear fork mounting holes.

Make sure those 'cracks' aren't just cracked paint.
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Re: Difference between frame plates 1100 sport (95) carb and 1992 Daytona
« Reply #4 on: April 19, 2016, 02:09:49 PM »
Those are for the inj. version and the RS. Mine are with the big hole in the plate. Just bare unpainted unpolished aluminium.
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Re: Difference between frame plates 1100 sport (95) carb and 1992 Daytona
« Reply #6 on: April 19, 2016, 02:46:45 PM »
Make sure those 'cracks' aren't just cracked paint.

Yeah might be worth having them tested...
 

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Re: Difference between frame plates 1100 sport (95) carb and 1992 Daytona
« Reply #7 on: April 19, 2016, 02:47:29 PM »
Hi all,

I've just acquired a 1992 Daytona, but found the frame plates have little cracks between the footpeg mounting holes and the rear fork mounting holes. Guess the bike had some rough time, even looking fine for the rest. (no damage on cilinderheads, etc). I'm looking to replace them, but not sure if I can use the frame plates from the 1995 1100 sport carb. They look virtually identical, except the footpeg mount hole. (a round vs a rectangular raised area).

Are they interchangeable?

Johan

Unless I'm mistaken, the frame plates for a Daytona 1000 should interchange with a carb'd Sport 1100.
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Re: Difference between frame plates 1100 sport (95) carb and 1992 Daytona
« Reply #8 on: April 19, 2016, 02:52:12 PM »
97-up frame plates are not for the 92-96 bikes.

right, I missed the year

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Re: Difference between frame plates 1100 sport (95) carb and 1992 Daytona
« Reply #9 on: April 19, 2016, 02:53:37 PM »
right, I missed the year

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(I do that all the time)
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Re: Difference between frame plates 1100 sport (95) carb and 1992 Daytona
« Reply #10 on: April 19, 2016, 02:57:38 PM »
...have little cracks...

Those cast aluminum pork-chops are known to be fragile--particularly if the bike has been down (which is probably why Guzzi changed the design).  Would it be possible for you to post a photograph--including a pointer to the cracks?

I've heard of fractures from a fallen bike, but not cracks from just normal operations.

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Re: Difference between frame plates 1100 sport (95) carb and 1992 Daytona
« Reply #11 on: April 19, 2016, 04:30:54 PM »
I have both bikes and they look identical/interchangeable.........and no cracks.
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Re: Difference between frame plates 1100 sport (95) carb and 1992 Daytona
« Reply #12 on: April 19, 2016, 04:37:10 PM »
I'm assuming (ahem) they are interchangeable. When the Kid has his 94 spot down here, we took off the pork chops and NDTd them just because. Pete had said they were fragile, and it had been on it's side. I'd do the same thing with yours. Bead blast them and do a dye penetrent/developer test.
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Re: Difference between frame plates 1100 sport (95) carb and 1992 Daytona
« Reply #13 on: April 19, 2016, 10:11:56 PM »
The pork chops from the carbureted Sport 1100's will fit the Daytona 1000, however, you must also use the Sport 1100 footrests. The Daytona 1000 footrests will not mate up the Sport's pork chops.

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Re: Difference between frame plates 1100 sport (95) carb and 1992 Daytona
« Reply #14 on: April 19, 2016, 11:58:10 PM »
Thanks for all the feedback, I've ordered a set. Next is to find the footrest holder (the U-bracket). Footrests found already.

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Re: Difference between frame plates 1100 sport (95) carb and 1992 Daytona
« Reply #15 on: April 20, 2016, 06:48:00 PM »
If you can't find them stateside try Pete at Reboot Guzzi Spares.

http://www.rebootguzzispares.com/


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I finally got around to having mine switched out this week. Mounted right up.

Original Daytona 1000 Pork Chops and foot rests:



Retrofitted Sport 1100 Pork Chops and footrests:



No faults in the original pair I just got tired of my calves pushing them into the up position at stops. Since they're not sprung they stay up and I had to find them with my heel while in motion and put them back down. Sprung Sport 1100 footrests solve the problem.

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It just occurred to me that one of my favorite distinguishing features on my favorite model of my favorite line of motorcycles is a pork-chop.

A pork-chop is also the greatest distinguishing feature of my favorite model of my favorite revolver. I give you, the pork-chop shrouded Dan Wesson .357:




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I'll see your Dan, and raise you a pistol pack.  :smiley: I agree, Dan's are better machines.
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