bureaucrats to the max

[Sasquatch Jim]

  Two months and a 130 mile round trip to a court house to get a new copy of my birth certificate, ( the old one was not acceptable), three 120 mile round trips to the nearest VA clinic to get a doctors statement that I am indeed a disabled veteran, (The same signed statement from a VA doctor in Hawaii was not acceptable,) and a verifiable copy of a DD214,
 Later, I am now licensed and plated to drive in the State of Ill Noise.
 The DMV here gets brownie points for the number of people it can refuse for stupid reasons.  BTW, four of my visits to the DMV office were needed to get me licensed and Four more to get the plates and titles for My P/U and Honda, and Rokon.  A bureaurocrats primary job is to generate needless paperwork to insure that there is job security for himself and other like him.  And you must watch them closely to be sure they return all your original documents and only keep copies for their own records.
 Tongue between lips and blowing a salute to them.

[sib]

  Two months and a 130 mile round trip to a court house to get a new copy of my birth certificate, ( the old one was not acceptable)....

Good thing you're not running for President.

[Orange Guzzi]

Do what I did, drop out. I pay all my medical bills at time of service.  I started getting "bills" in the mail for additional services.  I told the Dr offices I paid at time of service, stop sending bills.  That did not work, so I took my mail box down and pay all my utility bills and other contraction obligations on line.  Draining the swamp is going to be bitter sweet.  I will take advantage of the "the crazy cat woman" on the phone and behind the counter every chance I get.  Enough is enough.  I cannot except responsibility for others decisions.

Lannis, chime in, you know you want too.

[webmost]

Feds mandated a new driver license with a shiny bit embedded in it. Whoopee. I need more shiny bits.

Next time I came in to renew, the old license would not do, I had to furnish a birth cert... and, no, the quasi birth cert that qualified Big O to be Prez wasn't good enough. Had to be embossed, was the key, IIRC. So, to get a birth cert, I had to get a notary to stamp a letter. To get the notary to stamp a letter I had to show the notary my old driver license. Sent that package to Los Angeles. Got an embossed paper back. Took it to the DMV. They gave me a license with the wrong birth date on it. Years before I caught on they had the wrong year. Here we go again.

So my license wasn't good enough to renew a license; but it was good enough to get a birth cert to get an invalid license.

The important thing is, I did have to pay at every step. So. There's that.

[Arizona Wayne]

When I still lived in Kalifornia I found out going to a big DMV was a big mistake `cause then you get a run around and you don't know what's right and what's not.  I learned this by going to a small DMV in a little town where there was no hassle at all and 1 person actually knew the laws. 

Now I live in a little town in Aridzona and it's easy peasy too.  In fact in this state renewing vehicle registration can be done @ home via your computer & credit card. 

[Sasquatch Jim]

 S'true, out of the 7 states I have lived in, the Ill Noise DMV takes the most delight in making you jump through the most idiotic hoops.  And I thought Hawaii was bad.

[Testarossa]

Illinois was a horror show.  New York less so but everyone stands in line for 90 minutes. California easy IF it's a simple registration/renewal, and the wait can be 45 minutes or more. Washington State easy but expensive -- no state income tax so most revenues come from fees-for-services, like licensing. Colorado quick, efficient, pleasant, helpful -- at least in smaller offices.

[steven c]

 I spent a day and a half in CT, trying to register my 78 XL125, people at DMV gave me the wrong info and didn't know the rules had changed for doing a VIN check on bikes made before 1980.
 For those in CT you can no longer just go to a emissons station and pay $10 you have to go to a DMV inspection lane where they do a VIN cheack and safty check. I passed.

[LowRyter]

as bad as I'd hate to visit there, I'd hate working there much worse. 

Talk about over worked and under manned.

[Kent in Upstate NY]

I made appts in Cali and was in and out in 20 minutes. Upstate N.Y. was even easier.

[Two Checks]

It took me cive trips to the state capitol to get a b/c. Every time I went I needed more documentation. I finally got to talk to someone else and was told all I needed was something showing the city and county where I was born. A call to the FAA got it done.
I got my new D/L after taking the driver's exam.
At that time the feds mandated new licenses. Now they say these licenses are no good.
Btw my ols d/l was not considered a valid document.
Funny thing...I used to work for the state.