Author Topic: NGC GoPro or similar ?? (Read 4693 times)

Perazzimx14 · « **on:** March 31, 2017, 06:21:46 AM »

After taking Holly in the sidecar rig the other day and seeing her cheeks puffed up with air I realized I need a way to capture such events as well as having the ability to film rides and/or take stills along the way. Not sure if all this is possible. Willing to dedicate around $250 +/- for camera and mount. What say you?

fotoguzzi · « **Reply #1 on:** March 31, 2017, 07:08:46 AM »

http://shop.gopro.com/cameras/hero-session/CHDHS-104-master.html

simple and connective, $200.

lti_57 · « **Reply #2 on:** March 31, 2017, 08:09:29 AM »

we use Go pros all the time in the TV bizz
also use these.

Polaroid Cube has built in magnet on the bottom records to micro SD card HD 1080
http://www.polaroid.com/cube.

one photog can have a 2 or 3 camera shot

nick949 · « **Reply #3 on:** March 31, 2017, 08:35:57 AM »

I have two older GoPros that I use all the time and they are excellent - but expensive. I recently took a chance on a clone action camera from Amazon. It cost about $100CDN (20c. US

). So far it has been very good. It isn't quite as good as the GoPro, but the results are perfectly acceptable and far, far better than you would ever expect at the price and it came with a host of mounts (compatible with GoPro) and a spare battery. Take a chance - you have little to loose.

I wouldn't recommend it for stills though. Stills look like single video frames, and while they're sharp enough, they don't compare with what you can get with a cheap digital camera.

Once you get started doing this stuff, you'll either abandon it as a huge time waster, or get completely hooked.

Good luck

Nick

Here's a sample still from the clone camera (click on it for full size image):

fotoguzzi · « **Reply #4 on:** March 31, 2017, 09:08:23 AM »

GoPro takes very good stills I think 12 MP.

Perazzimx14 · « **Reply #5 on:** March 31, 2017, 04:03:49 PM »

Took fotoguzzi's advise and went with the GoPro session. Its charging up as we speak

fotoguzzi · « **Reply #6 on:** March 31, 2017, 04:21:40 PM »

Quote from: Perazzimx14 on March 31, 2017, 04:03:49 PM

Took fotoguzzi's advise and went with the GoPro session. Its charging up as we speak

nice, get the phone app to control it.. I hear GP has pretty good free editing software but have not tried it.

Perazzimx14 · « **Reply #7 on:** March 31, 2017, 06:46:50 PM »

Quote from: fotoguzzi on March 31, 2017, 04:21:40 PM

nice, get the phone app to control it.. I hear GP has pretty good free editing software but have not tried it.

Already got the phone app. Next is a harness for Holly.

Antietam Classic Cycle · « **Reply #8 on:** March 31, 2017, 07:10:41 PM »

Quote from: nick949 on March 31, 2017, 08:35:57 AM

I have two older GoPros that I use all the time and they are excellent - but expensive. I recently took a chance on a clone action camera from Amazon. It cost about $100CDN (20c. US ). So far it has been very good. It isn't quite as good as the GoPro, but the results are perfectly acceptable and far, far better than you would ever expect at the price and it came with a host of mounts (compatible with GoPro) and a spare battery. Take a chance - you have little to loose.

I wouldn't recommend it for stills though. Stills look like single video frames, and while they're sharp enough, they don't compare with what you can get with a cheap digital camera.

Could you give more details on the Amazon clone action camera please? I've been thinking about one and don't have the $$ to spend on a GoPro.

nick949 · « **Reply #9 on:** March 31, 2017, 07:48:10 PM »

Quote from: Antietam Classic Cycle on March 31, 2017, 07:10:41 PM

Could you give more details on the Amazon clone action camera please? I've been thinking about one and don't have the $$ to spend on a GoPro.

Hi Charlie,
This is the one I bought https://www.amazon.ca/Vtin-Underwater-Optional-Batteries-Mounting/dp/B01HM3JYHW/ref=sr_1_10?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1479682570&sr=1-10&keywords=action+camera, but there are plenty of options out there. I'm certainly satisfied for the price.

Among the many settings, it has the capacity to act as a motion sensor (takes 10 seconds of video if it detects movement), a time lapse camera (takes a still every few seconds (you set interval) then stitches it together as a time-lapse video, and will operate as an endless loop car-cam if it's plugged in.

Here are some samples to give you an idea...

www.adamsheritage.info/images/vidsample1.MP4 (the lens is a bit dirty on this one)

www.adamsheritage.info/images/vidsample2.MP4

fotoguzzi · « **Reply #10 on:** March 31, 2017, 08:03:39 PM »

Quote from: Perazzimx14 on March 31, 2017, 06:46:50 PM

Next is a harness for Holly.

better to get a little clamp and or tripod.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iyujusUR4CM
cam on dogs POV is not like mounting it on your handlebar.. too jerky and bouncing all over..
then get a short straight handlebar for yourself to get at the dogs level..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TyZJR54XsAk
experiment with frame rate, that video was shot at 120fps so 3x normal speed..

then set it up for still pics on burst of maybe 30 in 2 seconds to get one good pic from the 30

Note good resolution even after cropping..
hand held handlebar good for selfies too

thread drift but you brought the dogs into this..

Perazzimx14 · « **Reply #11 on:** March 31, 2017, 08:10:25 PM »

No selifies, I don't want to break it.

Antietam Classic Cycle · « **Reply #12 on:** March 31, 2017, 08:29:22 PM »

Quote from: nick949 on March 31, 2017, 07:48:10 PM

Hi Charlie,
This is the one I bought...

Thanks Nick. Found it on Amazon US for $94.

Flea · « **Reply #13 on:** March 31, 2017, 08:31:46 PM »

Ebay currently has a deal going for refurbished go pro session

http://www.ebay.com/itm/GoPro-Hero-Session-Refurbished-/322350429842?customid=e55a218e167a11e786ca1a2336c6e2e90INT&pub=5574652453&campid=5337259887&afepn=5337259887&icep_id=117&ipn=icep&afepn=5337259887&rmvSB=true

$109

nick949 · « **Reply #14 on:** March 31, 2017, 08:53:31 PM »

Foto.......I've never really liked the excessive fish-eye on the GoPros. Look at the horizon line on you dog in water picture. That just looks wrong to me (although great photo otherwise). I know you can flatten things a bit by playing with the settings, but el cheapo gives a flatter horizon and less trees bending towards the centre of the picture

Nick

fotoguzzi · « **Reply #15 on:** March 31, 2017, 09:29:36 PM »

GP has a 170 degree lens, maybe the other has a less wide lens? you can step down the view on a GP but it uses less of the chip so you loose resolution.

fotoguzzi · « **Reply #16 on:** March 31, 2017, 10:14:42 PM »

you've seen it but still my best gopro video,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OFeuPWgDB9k&t=5s

2nd best,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lF3Loc0q-J4

and here's what you can do combining video with time lapse over 2 weeks.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6tvRKb2yS70

swooshdave · « **Reply #17 on:** March 31, 2017, 10:41:26 PM »

I have a Hero 4 Silver and a knockoff. The quality is noticeable. But for some shots I don't mind hanging a $50 camera off the side and not the $500 one. Regardless I use tethers.

nick949 · « **Reply #18 on:** April 01, 2017, 06:09:39 AM »

Quote from: fotoguzzi on March 31, 2017, 10:14:42 PM

you've seen it but still my best gopro video,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OFeuPWgDB9k&t=5s

I'd hadn't seen that one before. Very slick. Lots of work!

Nick

Canada72 · « **Reply #19 on:** April 01, 2017, 06:37:13 AM »

https://monsterdigital.com/

Their price point is much better than GoPro and their cameras come with more accessories. I have used their 360 degree camera on my bike and it takes amazing videos, but you have to wear the goggles to watch it.

Cheers!

swooshdave · « **Reply #20 on:** April 01, 2017, 08:41:45 AM »

Quote from: fotoguzzi on March 31, 2017, 10:14:42 PM

you've seen it but still my best gopro video,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OFeuPWgDB9k&t=5s

2nd best,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lF3Loc0q-J4

and here's what you can do combining video with time lapse over 2 weeks.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6tvRKb2yS70

What are the poles you used to mount the camera on, especially the one way in the back?

fotoguzzi · « **Reply #21 on:** April 01, 2017, 08:53:29 AM »

not sure what you mean by the one in way back.. Here's some of my mounts, suction cup, c-clamp type, tripod w/flex legs (wrap around a post), selfie stick and a clamp that fits a light stand.
not shown chest strap, handle bar mount, helmet sticky.

swooshdave · « **Reply #22 on:** April 01, 2017, 08:21:14 PM »

At the beginning of the Buell Ulysses video I see you reaching back to adjust the camera. It appears to be on a pole? Is that just a selfie stick clamped to the back?

fotoguzzi · « **Reply #23 on:** April 01, 2017, 10:32:29 PM »

Quote from: swooshdave on April 01, 2017, 08:21:14 PM

At the beginning of the Buell Ulysses video I see you reaching back to adjust the camera. It appears to be on a pole? Is that just a selfie stick clamped to the back?

Oh yeah, good catch I totally forgot my most useful clamp. I call it the "articulator" it's from a photo store but I think originally used as a mic stand/clamp. modified by me.. it's infinitely adjustable but does transmit vibrations so I mostly use slow mo (120fps) with it.

Italian too!

Guzzi content, used it effectively here too note front wheel shot about 3:00 in and near the end.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Lwzsg7pfLQ&t=23s

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Author Topic: NGC GoPro or similar ?? (Read 4693 times)