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Offline Ozrider58

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Buying a 2005 breva in the uk
« on: May 09, 2017, 03:29:47 PM »
I'm negotiating the purchase of a 2005 breva 1100 in the UK. It's done just under 19000 miles. I know from my experience here in Australia there was a problem with the early CARCs on some bikes. Was that the same in the UK?

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Re: Buying a 2005 breva in the uk
« Reply #1 on: May 09, 2017, 05:40:41 PM »
Yes, but I'd be very surprised if it had got to 19,000m without the bearing collapsing. Ask for the number off the boss underneath the top boot of the CARC and run it past a dealer with access to the system. Last time I tried this though the info had been taken down from the site because the recall period had expired, (Ten year limit apparently.) but the factory has records if the dealer is willing to ask.

Only other things to be aware of will be the usual CARC/W5AM issues. Unless they have been serviced regularly the swingarm bearings will be a mass of rust, as will the shock linkage needle rollers and you have to check and ensure that the throttle stop screw on the LH throttle body hasn't been mugged about with by an idiot, (This happened a lot and still does sometimes, it's most frustrating!)

Oh, the early ones also had a problem with the Bellville washers on the face cam shock absorber assembly in the gearbox loosing their tension leading to the gearbox making a ghastly knocking noise at idle. The factory offered a fix but also insisted it would do no harm. Knowing how the shock absorber is assembled I find this claim dubious! Having said that I've not heard of one coming apart. The fix requires the gearbox to come apart which is a bore.

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Re: Buying a 2005 breva in the uk
« Reply #2 on: May 09, 2017, 06:29:39 PM »
Thanks Pete, the bike I'm looking at has been well looked after.

Your advice on fixing the CARC on my current B11 here in Oz was invaluable in negotiating dealer/importer here to get my CARC replaced.

Great report you did on Tony's bike as well

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Re: Buying a 2005 breva in the uk
« Reply #3 on: May 10, 2017, 06:18:22 AM »




Well there is a photo of the CARC no 05982 etched not stamped.  The recall notice I have states that all CARCs prior to 003171 were recalled.  I'm assuming that the 5 digit number on the CAC is prior to the 6 digit in the recall notice.

Am I right?

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Re: Buying a 2005 breva in the uk
« Reply #4 on: May 10, 2017, 09:28:07 AM »
Whereabouts in the UK did it come from as we might be able to have a stab at who may have sold it initially/done the recall on it

My pre-loved :wink: 05 came with a report from MotoStrada saying that the work had been done
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2005 Breva 1100 (non ABS) "Bruno" - now sold
1995 Cali 1100 - carby   "Dino" -now sold
1993 TW125 "POS" - Resting

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Re: Buying a 2005 breva in the uk
« Reply #5 on: May 10, 2017, 03:32:32 PM »
The bike was originally sold by A&D motorcycles. The owner has now gone back to them with the CARC number and a link to the recall notice. The dealer is going to contact piagio directly about it.  Interesting yours came with documentation of the warranty work. For me it's once bitten twice shy.

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Re: Buying a 2005 breva in the uk
« Reply #6 on: May 11, 2017, 01:07:43 AM »
Look what I've just found on the Guzzi UK web site while looking for something else - only a way of seeing what recalls have been done on your bike from the VIN  :shocked: :shocked:

http://static.piaggio.com/recall/form-motoguzzi_en.html

You never know, you might be kucky!!

Anyway, back to what I was looking for (a list of all the UK dealers) before being re-directed :thumb:
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2005 Breva 1100 (non ABS) "Bruno" - now sold
1995 Cali 1100 - carby   "Dino" -now sold
1993 TW125 "POS" - Resting

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Re: Buying a 2005 breva in the uk
« Reply #7 on: May 11, 2017, 01:14:56 AM »
Thanks but looks like their database only goes back to 2009 and this recall would have been 2005 or 6

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Re: Buying a 2005 breva in the uk
« Reply #8 on: May 11, 2017, 02:22:46 AM »
Thanks but looks like their database only goes back to 2009 and this recall would have been 2005 or 6

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Re: Buying a 2005 breva in the uk
« Reply #9 on: May 11, 2017, 02:48:00 AM »
By the look of things there are

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Re: Buying a 2005 breva in the uk
« Reply #10 on: May 11, 2017, 04:29:05 AM »
By the look of things there are

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Re: Buying a 2005 breva in the uk
« Reply #11 on: May 14, 2017, 03:55:45 PM »
Thanks for all the advise. Bike checked out well. The recall work was completed in 2006 but the dealer didn't keep a record but the factory did. Thanks

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