Just a little tumble

[Chuck in Indiana]

no 1:30 waits at a useless signal.

Me personal, I really like them!

In Indy during rush hour, there will be some 5 minute signals. Naturally, *everyone* runs them.. it's a war zone.

I like em, too.. it's the only place in central Indiana where you can get a knee down.  There is one road, just completed, on the North side that has them every quarter mile.  Very little traffic, so far..

[93spada]

NY is going roundabout crazy. going in everywhere.
An article when they started said that the have some % less COSTLY accidents.
In other words.... lots more smaller ones
Check this mess out!!!!!!!  6 in a row!!!!!

I have not seen any stats on before and after.

Paul

Edit... Cant make intended link work.
Put this address in your map page. Look at Dunning Street

509 State Route 67, Malta, NY 12020

[Lannis]

Roundabouts need a little "give and take" to work - you ease toward the way you want, someone gives way enough for you to clear, then someone eases toward you, you give them room to clear .... and just keep moving, not screaming at shaking your fist at someone who "beat you" to the clear spot or the exit you're taking.

That's the way they do it in the UK; UK guys may think it's bad there, but when you spend a couple weeks in the USA negotiating intersections, and then a couple weeks in the UK doing the same, and then back to the USA, the contrast is stark and clear - UK drivers handle their cars like experts, they know where their fenders are, and understand "give and take".   US drivers are like NASCAR drivers except they don't know how to drive, will hesitate going through a gap that a UK driver would drive an airplane through, and they get a case of the red a$$ if anyone "gets ahead" of them.

It's why roundabouts have a hard time here.   You have to put down your smartphone and drive your car ....

Lannis

[Andy1]

Hi Mojoe,
Please don’t take this bad but if you look at the UK Hiway code a driver can go straight ahead when in the left lane. 
Vehicles in the left land should go left or straight ahead.
Vehicles in the right lane should go straight ahead or right.
As I understand it you were in the right lane wanting to turn left.  So you were in the wrong lane.  You also could not see the car’s left indicator so had no confirmation of which way they were going.
If the car was in the left lane turning right at the roundabout they were also in the wrong lane.
And two wrongs often make....a crash.

Just saying this to help avoid you having another crash as the same scenario could easily happen again.  Glad you were OK this time
Andy1

[Kiwi_Roy]

I spent some time in China over the last 10 years (not driving thankfully). It's not unusual to be going around a roundabout and meet someone going the other way, doesn't seem to phase the driver.


Sent from my shoe phone!

[tris]

.... UK drivers handle their cars like experts, they know where their fenders are, and understand "give and take".   ....

Its interesting to see another perspective Lannis, as I think that far too many of them are complete muppets that come the revolution should be first against the wall!!!

However if you were down Devon way (and out of season) they have even less cars there to cause a traffic jam than I do up here in Lincolnshire!!

I did a business trip the other day and had to drive from Lincolnshire to London Gatwick Airport via the A1, M11 & M25

As I was driving along dodging the muppets (including those that drove straight on to a RB without stopping  ) I thanked my stars that I live where I live

I always need to re-calibrate my driving when I cross the M25 to "London Driving" 

[mojoe]

Know what you mean Tris, was over Devon at half term in the Jag but as soon as you get on M4 it starts to get interesting and even more so when M25 time comes. use the M11 a lot picking up family friends from Stansted and at times it is a fun road to be on, watching all kinds of antics going down.
I often think some people have an unconscious death wish the way they drive.

And my intention wasn't to start a Roundabout thread!!

[Lannis]

Its interesting to see another perspective Lannis, as I think that far too many of them are complete muppets that come the revolution should be first against the wall!!!

However if you were down Devon way (and out of season) they have even less cars there to cause a traffic jam than I do up here in Lincolnshire!!

I did a business trip the other day and had to drive from Lincolnshire to London Gatwick Airport via the A1, M11 & M25

As I was driving along dodging the muppets (including those that drove straight on to a RB without stopping  ) I thanked my stars that I live where I live

I always need to re-calibrate my driving when I cross the M25 to "London Driving" 

Well, it being the first week of November, it wasn't Southwest England Holiday Traffic ...

But we did take the M25 from London to the M3 and then the A303 ... we got to Stonehenge early in the morning and traffic wasn't bad, but by the time we left, the A303 was a parking lot, then down to the A30 and hence to Cornwall.   

Must have been 200 roundabouts, and all of them were fairly easy and pleasant and MUCH faster than traffic lights, where you sit at the light whether there's any cross traffic or not.

Most amazing was the behavior of the drivers on the tiny Cornish B-roads, where your mirrors were nicking the hedges on both sides of the road, with the occasional "wide spot" for passing.   Oncoming drivers would do the calculation as they approached, decide whether they or the other car should back up, and would do it RIGHT NOW.   I never saw one that "forced" his way around you if it wasn't his turn.

Now this was just 2 weeks and maybe 1000 miles, mind you, but the contrast with driver habits and skills at home was stark and definite!

Lannis