Wow, something slower than my Cal 2 Auto...

[brider]

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1975-Replica-Kit-Makes-Morgan-JZR-MG/142627742161?hash=item213546a1d1:g:nRcAAOSwiBJaNcJG&vxp=mtr

I'm sure some of you have seen this, maybe in the flesh. Looks like fun, but I would NOT wanna be on a long grade on a hot day with traffic backed up behind me. Maybe in 1st gear it's OK. Love the look of the dash instruments, looks better than mounted on the triple-clamps.

[fotoguzzi]

I don't care how slow it goes, that is cool.

[Sheepdog]

A machine for river basins and coastal flats...

[Pop]

Coastal Fats???? I resemble that remark. Put reverse back in and loan me 10k. Kool!!!
Pop

[Lannis]

The power must all disappear into heating up the fluid in the slushbox.  My little car with a 60 HP engine weighs 1850 pounds (twice what this does) and will hold 60 MPH on any hill in fourth gear ....

Lannis

[Sheepdog]

Morgan will sell you a new one, but the price is dear...

[Triple Jim]

They seem to weigh about 900 lbs.  I don't imagine that's much more than a big Guzzi with a sidecar rig.

[Antietam Classic Cycle]

Coastal Fats???? I resemble that remark. Put reverse back in and loan me 10k. Kool!!!
Pop

Reverse would be fairly easy to accomplish in a Convert transmission, you'd just have to give up low range.

[brider]

  My little car with a 60 HP engine weighs 1850 pounds (twice what this does) and will hold 60 MPH on any hill in fourth gear ....

Lannis

Bug? I had a '67 I drove for a while and was amazed at how well it pulled hills with that little motor singing away. On paper I would've guessed my Cal 2 Auto would have a little more "pulling" power under high load, but alas, it is what it is.

[Arizona Wayne]

The power must all disappear into heating up the fluid in the slushbox.  My little car with a 60 HP engine weighs 1850 pounds (twice what this does) and will hold 60 MPH on any hill in fourth gear ....

Lannis

My 400 MP3 has 39? hp and with me & all my camping gear on it weighed out @ 900# on a scale.  Still it can do 65-70 mph up a 6% grade & has a 90 mph top speed.

I wonder if that thing in front of the motor is a bigger ATF cooler on this trike.  When I had a small sidecar on my `80 Guzzi Convert. rig I had 2 stock ATF coolers in series to deal with the extra load.  I put a H20 gauge in the ATF tank to monitor the fluid temp. since the auto. seals can blow if the fluid temp. gets too high.  Once in awhile in slow stop & go uphill situations w/car loaded I would have to pull over to let the fluid cool down before it got too hot.     Maybe w/a fan on the cooler I wouldn't have had to pull over the few times this happened.

[Lannis]

Bug? I had a '67 I drove for a while and was amazed at how well it pulled hills with that little motor singing away. .....

I can't mention the car, or a certain party from near the Sharpsburg area of Maryland will take the piss out of me for bringing it up again .... 

The maker was started and managed by Henry, Edsel, and Henry II for many years, and is also the word for a place to cross a creek or river if there's no bridge.

The model is a word from mythology, a celebration in honor of a god.

The year is 21 years before you joined WG.

There, let his warn-me-if-Lannis-mentions-it-again search bot figure THAT out!!   

Lannis

[Antietam Classic Cycle]

I can't mention the car, or a certain party from near the Sharpsburg area of Maryland will take the piss out of me for bringing it up again .... 

The maker was started and managed by Henry, Edsel, and Henry II for many years, and is also the word for a place to cross a creek or river if there's no bridge.

The model is a word from mythology, a celebration in honor of a god.

The year is 21 years before you joined WG.

There, let his warn-me-if-Lannis-mentions-it-again search bot figure THAT out!!   

Lannis

Nobody around here will "take the piss out of you". You can mention the most fantastic car every built all you'd like.  Here, I'll do it for you: Ford Festiva, designed by Mazda, built by Kia if I'm not mistaken.

The little craptastic Honda Z600 I have back in the early '90s only had 30-couple hp, but as long as it was only me aboard (and not my 230 lb. car-pool buddy also), it would run flat out (70 mph) up most hills and got 50 mpg.

I'd like to drive the Cal II Auto powered JZR to see just how well/poor it performs. My '76 Convert has no issues climbing any grades at interstate speeds, so a Cal II Auto shouldn't either.

[Lannis]

Nobody around here will "take the piss out of you".

Aw, come on.   Please?   I'd feel left out otherwise ....

The little craptastic Honda Z600 I have back in the early '90s only had 30-couple hp, but as long as it was only me aboard (and not my 230 lb. car-pool buddy also), it would run flat out (70 mph) up most hills and got 50 mpg.

I had a little 1970 Honda S600 in 1983.   Two-cylinder 600cc engine that looked all the world like an old Honda 305 bike engine under the hood, the gearshift stuck out of the dash, little 10" (maybe 12"?) wheels.    Drove it quite a while, it drove just like you said.  Would keep up with any VW Beetle and get half again the gas mileage.

Sold it on before something happened to it that I wouldn't be able to fix or get parts for!

Lannis

[wymple]

I don't care how slow it is, I'd rock it all over town.

[Antietam Classic Cycle]

Aw, come on.   Please?   I'd feel left out otherwise ....

I had a little 1970 Honda S600 in 1983.   Two-cylinder 600cc engine that looked all the world like an old Honda 305 bike engine under the hood, the gearshift stuck out of the dash, little 10" (maybe 12"?) wheels.    Drove it quite a while, it drove just like you said.  Would keep up with any VW Beetle and get half again the gas mileage.

Sold it on before something happened to it that I wouldn't be able to fix or get parts for!

Lannis

Bought mine from a junkyard for $450 including all of the parts I wanted off of a crashed one next to it. It was just too cute and complete for me to let it "die". I had $600 in it on the road. Tires (Pirelli P3 - 155SR-10) were $98 shipped for all four. At one point the engine became really "rattly" - it needed a cam chain, tensioner and guide, plus a couple bearings in the cooling fan, all of which were available from my local Honda dealer.

The shift lever on mine pivoted up under the dash and was shaped kind of U-shaped. The transmission was motorcycle like - constant mesh - so it was possible to go right into reverse instead of the forward gear you were aiming for. You can come very close to getting rear-ended by a taxi cab when you do that. 

Sold mine when I bought a completely rust-free '56 Beetle project.

[Aaron D.]

I had an N600, the heater made noises in sync with the engine. Still, a great car-my girlfriend was driving it when it was hit by a Pontiac-she got bruised knees but the occupants of the Pontiac went to the hospital.

The car went to car heaven.

[Lannis]

I had an N600, the heater made noises in sync with the engine. Still, a great car-my girlfriend was driving it when it was hit by a Pontiac-she got bruised knees but the occupants of the Pontiac went to the hospital.

The car went to car heaven.

I said mine was an S600 but that's not right, the S600 was the roadster.   Mine was an N600 like yours.   It WAS a great car, replaced by the first Civic the next year ....

Lannis

[Antietam Classic Cycle]

I said mine was an S600 but that's not right, the S600 was the roadster.   Mine was an N600 like yours.   It WAS a great car, replaced by the first Civic the next year ....

Lannis

The N600 was a boxy little sedan, not unlike your Festiva. My brother had a red one of those.


The Z600 was sort of egg-shaped, kind of like an Aspire.  Mine was blue.


The shifter wasn't quite as U-shaped as I remembered.

[Arizona Wayne]

When I was in Japan for the Navy in  `68 I looked underside what I think was a S600 Honda roadster body and saw a chain all the way to the rear axle !!    Did you guys have the same setup?

[Antietam Classic Cycle]

When I was in Japan for the Navy in  `68 I looked underside what I think was a S600 Honda roadster body and saw a chain all the way to the rear axle !!    Did you guys have the same setup?

No. The N600 and Z600 are front engine-front wheel drive.

[rodekyll]

No. The N600 and Z600 are front engine-front wheel drive.

Yeah, the 600 (either version) was a sort of a unit construction parallel twin with a horizontally split case that included the engine and transaxle in the common castings. 

[Aaron D.]

My buddy at the time had a Z600!

The chain drive would have been an S, and maybe an 800 as well, cute things, and sought after now.

The Honda was not TOO bad in snow, though the wheels got overwhelmed easily. I remember drifting it (accidentally) around a corner, rear end hanging out (the car, not me) as the front wheels tracked along.