Author Topic: Oregonians Horrified That Others May Now Choose To Pump Own Gas  (Read 15469 times)

Offline Kev m

  • Not your normal Hombre
  • Gaggle Hero
  • *****
  • Posts: 30984
  • Yo from Medford, NJ
Re: Oregonians Horrified That Others May Now Choose To Pump Own Gas
« Reply #60 on: January 07, 2018, 02:35:59 PM »
Web and Howard man I can't imagine.

I literally have never had an attendant give me any guff about pumping my own, and if they're busy or slow I'll just go ahead and fill my car too.

Wonder what the difference is?
Current Fleet

18 Guzzi V7III Carbon Dark
13 Guzzi V7 Stone
11 Duc M696

Offline Darren Williams

  • Finally got me a Griso!
  • Gaggle Hero
  • *****
  • Posts: 1085
  • Life is too short to go slow!
  • Location: Oklahoma
Re: Oregonians Horrified That Others May Now Choose To Pump Own Gas
« Reply #61 on: January 07, 2018, 02:59:39 PM »
Web and Howard man I can't imagine.

I literally have never had an attendant give me any guff about pumping my own, and if they're busy or slow I'll just go ahead and fill my car too.

Wonder what the difference is?

Foreigners not knowing how the locals play the game?   :boozing:
The best part of riding a motorcycle is to tilt the horizon and to lift the front coming out of a corner and to drift the back end powering thru loose dirt and to catch a little air topping a hill and... yeah it's all good!

Rough Edge racing

  • Guest
Re: Oregonians Horrified That Others May Now Choose To Pump Own Gas
« Reply #62 on: January 07, 2018, 03:07:17 PM »
Web and Howard man I can't imagine.

I literally have never had an attendant give me any guff about pumping my own, and if they're busy or slow I'll just go ahead and fill my car too.

Wonder what the difference is?

  Perhaps you have something called patience?

Offline TimmyTheHog

  • Gaggle Mentor
  • ****
  • Posts: 934
Re: Oregonians Horrified That Others May Now Choose To Pump Own Gas
« Reply #63 on: January 07, 2018, 03:11:40 PM »
Web and Howard man I can't imagine.

I literally have never had an attendant give me any guff about pumping my own, and if they're busy or slow I'll just go ahead and fill my car too.

Wonder what the difference is?

Up in BC Canada, there are two cities still have Full Service law in place, Richmond & Coquitlam.

Both are "illegal" for drivers to fuel up their own gas.

Now, as a motorbiker, I do NOT want anyone touch my bike when fueling up especially most of them do it with sloppiest attitude as they are usually paid minimum wage or lower as "family biz"

Also, I had actually waited for nearly 5 mins to just have someone acknowledged my existence in numerous occasion when I needed to gas up in my 4 wheels...

if not because I wasn't in a hurry, I might have just pump my own gas and "break the law"...

On top of that, most places are 5~10 cents MORE if you go with full service...
Life isn't WHAT IS at the end.
It is HOW and WHAT you are doing to get there.

03 Honda Shadow Spirit - The Purple Beast (SOLD)
15 Guzz V7 Stone - The Red Chick (SOLD)
18 BMW R1200GS Rallye - The Blue Streak (SOLD)

Currently Bikeless...*cry*

guzzipete

  • Guest
Re: Oregonians Horrified That Others May Now Choose To Pump Own Gas
« Reply #64 on: January 07, 2018, 05:28:24 PM »
The new law in Oregon is not really that big of a change.

Oregonians driving non-commercial vehicles will be allowed to pump their own gas -- so long as they're stopped at a service station in a rural area (counties with 40,000 people or fewer) between 6 p.m. and 6 a.m.

Motorcycles riders have been allowed to pump their own for a couple of years. An attendent is supposed to swipe your card and hand you the nozzle, but most don't. I ride quite a bit in rural Oregon and have had no issues pumping my own gas when on the bike.

Offline Arizona Wayne

  • Gaggle Hero
  • *****
  • Posts: 6257
Re: Oregonians Horrified That Others May Now Choose To Pump Own Gas
« Reply #65 on: January 08, 2018, 12:24:40 AM »
The new law in Oregon is not really that big of a change.

Oregonians driving non-commercial vehicles will be allowed to pump their own gas -- so long as they're stopped at a service station in a rural area (counties with 40,000 people or fewer) between 6 p.m. and 6 a.m.

Motorcycles riders have been allowed to pump their own for a couple of years. An attendent is supposed to swipe your card and hand you the nozzle, but most don't. I ride quite a bit in rural Oregon and have had no issues pumping my own gas when on the bike.


Yes, up to know they ask you if you want to pump your own gas because they are afraid they might damage your MC gas tank some how.  But that doesn't make what they actually  make their actions legal.  At the same time they would take my CC and put it in the dispenser instead of letting me do it myself. If you were in a car/truck then they wouldn't offer you the same thing.  :wink:
« Last Edit: January 09, 2018, 08:18:31 PM by Arizona Wayne »

Offline Brand X

  • Gaggle Mentor
  • ****
  • Posts: 459
Re: Oregonians Horrified That Others May Now Choose To Pump Own Gas
« Reply #66 on: January 09, 2018, 09:40:33 AM »
As a Oregonian for 61 years, there is some truth to this one.. :thumb:

 

oldbike54

  • Guest
Re: Oregonians Horrified That Others May Now Choose To Pump Own Gas
« Reply #67 on: January 09, 2018, 10:19:05 AM »
As a Oregonian for 61 years, there is some truth to this one.. :thumb:



 That happens here also .

 Dusty

Offline Lannis

  • Gaggle Hero
  • *****
  • Posts: 26504
  • Location: Central Virginia
Re: Oregonians Horrified That Others May Now Choose To Pump Own Gas
« Reply #68 on: January 09, 2018, 10:51:53 AM »
As a Oregonian for 61 years, there is some truth to this one.. :thumb:



I blame BP for that error-prone situation.   Prior to BP coming to the US, green was ALWAYS diesel and red was ALWAYS gasoline .... But in the UK, green is petrol ....

Lannis
"Hard pounding, this, gentlemen; let's see who pounds the longest".

Offline PJPR01

  • Gaggle Hero
  • *****
  • *
  • *
  • *
  • *
  • Posts: 4018
  • Norge, Scura, Griso
  • Location: Houston, Texas
Re: Oregonians Horrified That Others May Now Choose To Pump Own Gas
« Reply #69 on: January 09, 2018, 12:26:14 PM »
I blame BP for that error-prone situation.   Prior to BP coming to the US, green was ALWAYS diesel and red was ALWAYS gasoline .... But in the UK, green is petrol ....

Lannis

So you're saying that folks who never traveled outside of Oregon to California and Nevada and had to pump their gas there, that these same folks were actually traveling to the UK and got confused there.

I find that a stretch in imagination by a long shot!

Paul R
2021 Honda Goldwing Bagger Manual Cement Gray
2015 Red/Black Griso
2008 Silver Norge
2002 V11 Scura

Offline twowheeladdict

  • Gaggle Hero
  • *****
  • Posts: 6534
Re: Oregonians Horrified That Others May Now Choose To Pump Own Gas
« Reply #70 on: January 09, 2018, 12:33:13 PM »
I love the comments like "I don't know how to pump gas."  This issue has always been about jobs.  Now NJ, with it's strong union influence, is the only state where it is illegal to pump your own gas.  I'm not against unions.  At some point we have to recognize featherbedding for what it is, waste.

I think there should be jobs for those who didn't or can't be educated to do something more with their lives.  Better than being on disability in your 20s.  When I rode in NJ, the guy took my card from my hand and slide it in the pump and then handed it back to me.  He then handed me the nozzle and let me pump my own gas into my tank.  It thought it was kinda funny. 
2022 Moto Guzzi V85TT Guardia D'onore
2018 V7 III Carbon Dark #0009 of 1921
2018 Road Glide Special
2021 Kawasaki KLX300SM
2017 Suzuki Van Van 200
2015 Yamaha SR400
2009 Harley Davidson Softail Custom

Offline Lannis

  • Gaggle Hero
  • *****
  • Posts: 26504
  • Location: Central Virginia
Re: Oregonians Horrified That Others May Now Choose To Pump Own Gas
« Reply #71 on: January 09, 2018, 02:25:36 PM »
So you're saying that folks who never traveled outside of Oregon to California and Nevada and had to pump their gas there, that these same folks were actually traveling to the UK and got confused there.

I find that a stretch in imagination by a long shot!

No, I didn't mean that.

I mean that before BP came to the USA, all US gas nozzles were red and all diesel nozzles were green.

Then in BP stations, they started using green for gasoline at their stations (like in the UK).   NOW, people don't flinch back from a green nozzle before sticking it in their tank and pumping.   You can't just go by the nozzle, you have to look at the pump itself to see what you're pumping.   

Of course you should do that, but it's sort of like suddenly using octagons for Yield signs and triangles for Stop signs.   Sure, you should read the words, but it can cause problems I would think ...

Lannis
"Hard pounding, this, gentlemen; let's see who pounds the longest".

Offline PJPR01

  • Gaggle Hero
  • *****
  • *
  • *
  • *
  • *
  • Posts: 4018
  • Norge, Scura, Griso
  • Location: Houston, Texas
Re: Oregonians Horrified That Others May Now Choose To Pump Own Gas
« Reply #72 on: January 09, 2018, 03:25:16 PM »
Gotcha!  I can't remember for sure, but I always thought the nozzle diameter on Diesel pumps was larger than the diameter of gas nozzles and would not even fit into a gasoline car.  Haven't checked in a while, but I suppose that may not be the case for all models of cars.  Nothing worse than tanking up a full tank of diesel in a gasoline car...that would be an expensive mistake for sure!
Paul R
2021 Honda Goldwing Bagger Manual Cement Gray
2015 Red/Black Griso
2008 Silver Norge
2002 V11 Scura

Online normzone

  • Gaggle Hero
  • *****
  • Posts: 3123
  • '72 Eldo - 1980 to 1990 - '99 Bassa 2014 - 2023
  • Location: San Diego CA
Re: Oregonians Horrified That Others May Now Choose To Pump Own Gas
« Reply #73 on: January 09, 2018, 03:33:07 PM »
I remember on our Renault R8, in Nebraska somewhere, going across country, we stopped in a little station and a woman attendant came out to pump our gas.   The gas filler cap was under the rear-engine "hood", so you had to raise the hood to get to the filler. But the first thing you saw when you opened the hood was the air-cleaner intake horn, just the right size for a gas nozzle.   So guess where the first gallon of gas went

My mom told of asking a kid attendant if he would top off the radiator, since the '39 Buick Special had a leaky water pump. She grabbed him as he was going for the oil filler cap on top of the valve cover.

Yes, [PJR01], you are correct.
That's the combustion chamber of the turbo shaft. It is supposed to be on fire. You just don't usually see it but the case and fairing fell off.

Offline Aaron D.

  • Gaggle Hero
  • *****
  • Posts: 5882
Re: Oregonians Horrified That Others May Now Choose To Pump Own Gas
« Reply #74 on: January 09, 2018, 06:57:03 PM »
I think there should be jobs for those who didn't or can't be educated to do something more with their lives.  Better than being on disability in your 20s.  When I rode in NJ, the guy took my card from my hand and slide it in the pump and then handed it back to me.  He then handed me the nozzle and let me pump my own gas into my tank.  It thought it was kinda funny.

Well, wouldn't it be easier and cheaper to send a check and let him go fishing?

Online rodekyll

  • Gaggle Hero
  • *****
  • Posts: 21218
  • Not my real name
Re: Oregonians Horrified That Others May Now Choose To Pump Own Gas
« Reply #75 on: January 09, 2018, 08:33:33 PM »
This topic reads funnier if you shift the setting and replace "pump attendant" with "self-checkout attendant" or "restroom assistant".  And when you think about it, when the shift occurs the discussion doesn't change.


 :popcorn:

Offline ITSec

  • Gaggle Hero
  • *****
  • Posts: 3040
  • Location: Southwestern US
Re: Oregonians Horrified That Others May Now Choose To Pump Own Gas
« Reply #76 on: January 09, 2018, 08:40:16 PM »
I blame BP for that error-prone situation.   Prior to BP coming to the US, green was ALWAYS diesel and red was ALWAYS gasoline .... But in the UK, green is petrol ....

Lannis

Well, I'd agree with that logic if Shell hadn't been here first. Its proper company name is 'Royal Dutch Shell', which reminds me of that old saying about the best and worst of worlds based on European stereotypes.

The Dutch are (reportedly) either tall, crazy, or both - and let it be noted that I've met some under-tall Netherlanders in my time...  :evil:
ITSecurity
2012 Griso 8v SE - Tenni Green
2013 Stelvio NTX - Copper
2008 Norge GT - Silver

I am but mad north-northwest!
When the wind is southerly, I can tell a hawk from a handsaw...

pete roper

  • Guest
Re: Oregonians Horrified That Others May Now Choose To Pump Own Gas
« Reply #77 on: January 10, 2018, 05:05:43 AM »
This will make some of you laugh. Up until I read the last few posts in this thread I'd never actually thought about or realised that bowser handles and pumps were colour coded! Really! It had never occurred to me!

Now it's been pointed out it is of course obvious but I've always just read the words and numbers on the bowser. It never occurred to me the handles had any significance, I just thought they did it to brighten the place up......:D

Pete

Offline jas67

  • Gaggle Hero
  • *****
  • Posts: 5438
  • Location: Palmyra, PA
Re: Oregonians Horrified That Others May Now Choose To Pump Own Gas
« Reply #78 on: January 10, 2018, 05:19:15 AM »
Gotcha!  I can't remember for sure, but I always thought the nozzle diameter on Diesel pumps was larger than the diameter of gas nozzles and would not even fit into a gasoline car.  Haven't checked in a while, but I suppose that may not be the case for all models of cars.  Nothing worse than tanking up a full tank of diesel in a gasoline car...that would be an expensive mistake for sure!

Yes, the nozzle diameter of Diesel pumps is larger, except when it isn't.    There are two smaller stations in our area that I've had the misfortune of trying to buy diesel from that have gasoline nozzles on their diesel pumps.   2013 and near VW diesels have a special fill port that you can not put the smaller gasoline nozzle in.    It has a drop door that doesn't open until releases on opposite sides of the hole are pressed outward by the correct sized nozzle.    Both of these times, I was very low on fuel, and a bit pissed that I had drive even further to find fuel.

So now, as a general rule, I look for a major chain store like Sheetz or Rutters, as I know that they have the correct pump handles.


2017 V7III Special
1977 Le Mans
1974 Eldorado
2017 Triumph Thruxton R
2013 Ducati Monster 796, 2013 848 Evo Corse SE, 1974 750GT, 1970 Mk3d 450 Desmo, 1966 Monza 250
1975 Moto Morini 3 1/2
2007 Vespa GTS250
2016 BMW R1200RS, 80 R100S, 76 R90S ,73 R75/5
76 Honda CB400F, 67 305 Super Hawk, 68 CL175

Offline blackcat

  • Gaggle Hero
  • *****
  • *
  • *
  • *
  • *
  • Posts: 9033
  • Location: USA
Re: Oregonians Horrified That Others May Now Choose To Pump Own Gas
« Reply #79 on: January 10, 2018, 08:26:14 AM »
"A December 2015 Rutgers-Eagleton poll found that almost three-quarters of the state’s residents preferred to have gas pumped for them, and that 84 percent of women preferred the service."

The majority of New Jersey residents seem to be OK with the service and until the NJ Gov raised the tax on gas it was still cheaper than a lot of east coast states.
1968 Norton Fastback
1976 Lemans
1981 CX-100
1993 1000S
1997 Daytona RS
2007 Red Norge

Online rodekyll

  • Gaggle Hero
  • *****
  • Posts: 21218
  • Not my real name
Re: Oregonians Horrified That Others May Now Choose To Pump Own Gas
« Reply #80 on: January 10, 2018, 04:22:10 PM »
"A December 2015 Rutgers-Eagleton poll found that almost three-quarters of the state’s residents preferred to have gas pumped for them, and that 84 percent of women preferred the service."

The majority of New Jersey residents seem to be OK with the service and until the NJ Gov raised the tax on gas it was still cheaper than a lot of east coast states.

I wonder how the poll question was asked.  Did they say "Do you prefer to sit in your warm dry car while someone else stands in the cold rain getting their hands stinky?" or did they ask "If you could save a dime/gallon by pumping your own gas, would you?"

The intent of the law is to allow folks the option to self-serve from credit card-operated pumps, in rural areas, at night when the station is otherwise closed.  The alternative has been to shut down the pumps when the attendant goes home, leaving night drivers sleeping in their cars until the pumps reopen.  It's not a law banning full-serve pumps, and it's an option that's allowed to a small percentage of gas stops.  It's not happening in the cities.  It's not happening during the day.  It's really a non-event unless you need the option.

Offline webmost

  • Gosling
  • ***
  • Posts: 410
  • Safety Third
    • The Sotweed Factor
  • Location: Newark, Delaware
Re: Oregonians Horrified That Others May Now Choose To Pump Own Gas
« Reply #81 on: January 10, 2018, 04:49:42 PM »

Unmitigated risk aversion is the new Puritanism; complete with witch hunts funny outfits and humorless preachers thundering doom. The Deity is Safety; Satan is a Lawyer; but the object is the same: to suck the life out of life and tell you how to live it.

Offline Kiwi_Roy

  • Gaggle Hero
  • *****
  • Posts: 10050
  • Location: New Westminster British Columbia, Canada
Re: Oregonians Horrified That Others May Now Choose To Pump Own Gas
« Reply #82 on: January 10, 2018, 08:05:33 PM »
I will translate for you
Bowser = Pump


Sent from my shoe phone!
17 V7III Special
76 Convert

Moto Guzzi - making electricians out of riders since March 15 1921

Offline twowheeladdict

  • Gaggle Hero
  • *****
  • Posts: 6534
Re: Oregonians Horrified That Others May Now Choose To Pump Own Gas
« Reply #83 on: January 11, 2018, 09:16:20 PM »
Well, wouldn't it be easier and cheaper to send a check and let him go fishing?

Easier and cheaper for who?
2022 Moto Guzzi V85TT Guardia D'onore
2018 V7 III Carbon Dark #0009 of 1921
2018 Road Glide Special
2021 Kawasaki KLX300SM
2017 Suzuki Van Van 200
2015 Yamaha SR400
2009 Harley Davidson Softail Custom


NEW WILDGUZZI PRODUCT - Moto Guzzi Door Mat
Receive donation credit with door mat purchase!
Advertise Here
 

20 Ounce Stainless Steel Double Insulated Tumbler
Buy a quality tumbler and support the forum at the same time!
Better than a YETI! BPA and Lead free.
Advertise Here