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Offline flower_king001

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canisterectomy Breva 1100?
« on: August 02, 2020, 02:12:43 PM »
Hi,

 Would someone be so kind and give me step by step instructions on how to remove the EVAP/Charcoal canister system from my Breva 1100?

 Thanks
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Re: canisterectomy Breva 1100?
« Reply #1 on: August 02, 2020, 02:39:29 PM »
You must not have liked my explanation.

 
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Re: canisterectomy Breva 1100?
« Reply #2 on: August 02, 2020, 03:56:16 PM »
You must not have liked my explanation.

Just wanted more detailed instructions.

Seems this board is more geared for "off topic" or oil and tire discussions.
« Last Edit: August 02, 2020, 04:08:48 PM by flower_king001 »
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Re: canisterectomy Breva 1100?
« Reply #3 on: August 02, 2020, 05:09:59 PM »
It's really easy. Take can out of trunk, undo the screw. Take off sidecover on R/H side and cut ties that hold lines to the framerail. Cut hoses at the can, one will need to be long to go down under motor for tank vent & cap drain. You can now pull the hose forward to where it comes out by the battery. There is a T on the lines by battery, connect the cap drain & tank vent to the T and run it down behind trans with the long hose you pulled out from the back. One of the hoses goes to the L/R throttle bodies, you can disgard and use a hose running L to R. OR take out the T in it and replace it w/a strait plastic cross from auto parts.
How's that? Better?    The hoses might be on LH side, can't remember but that's it.
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Re: canisterectomy Breva 1100?
« Reply #4 on: August 02, 2020, 07:09:36 PM »
it's really pretty simple and straightforward though time-consuming especially as many of the lines are routed tightly through the frame and body work.

As with most things you need to begin with the end in sight. The end state is that both of the vent/drain lines that come from the tank should be connected into a t with a line extending down 2 below the engine and transmission so that any gas fumes or overflow from filler exit down and low.

The other end state is that the air bleed taps on each throttle body need to be either capped or connected together with one of the leftover lines.

Take your time and remove everything. Unless you want to save it for posterity sake and possible reinstallation you can cut the lines where convenient.

I've removed the system from a Norge and a 1200 sport as they are almost the same.

just take your time and if you end up with the two end States I mention above you'll be fine.

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Re: canisterectomy Breva 1100?
« Reply #5 on: August 03, 2020, 05:45:33 AM »
Thanks for the responses!

Off to HWY-129 for a few days!
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Re: canisterectomy Breva 1100?
« Reply #6 on: August 07, 2020, 02:16:16 PM »
Thanks to all who responded.

Got back the other day from The Dragon and today performed the canisterectomy on my Breva.

Thanks again!
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Re: canisterectomy Breva 1100?
« Reply #7 on: August 08, 2020, 07:11:15 AM »
it's really pretty simple and straightforward though time-consuming especially as many of the lines are routed tightly through the frame and body work.

As with most things you need to begin with the end in sight. The end state is that both of the vent/drain lines that come from the tank should be connected into a t with a line extending down 2 below the engine and transmission so that any gas fumes or overflow from filler exit down and low.

The other end state is that the air bleed taps on each throttle body need to be either capped or connected together with one of the leftover lines.

Take your time and remove everything. Unless you want to save it for posterity sake and possible reinstallation you can cut the lines where convenient.

I've removed the system from a Norge and a 1200 sport as they are almost the same.

just take your time and if you end up with the two end States I mention above you'll be fine.

Just to jump in here and ask...  Is either capping or linking the two intake vac taps better? Any reason you should do one or the other? I removed the canister on my 02 Cali stone, and just connected the two. Any reason its better to just cap?
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Re: canisterectomy Breva 1100?
« Reply #8 on: August 08, 2020, 09:07:27 AM »
Just to jump in here and ask...  Is either capping or linking the two intake vac taps better? Any reason you should do one or the other? I removed the canister on my 02 Cali stone, and just connected the two. Any reason its better to just cap?

I connect mine. In theory connecting the two should help balance the intake track much in the same way as a crossover works on the exhaust. This was recommended to me by the techs at Moto International back in 2015.
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Re: canisterectomy Breva 1100?
« Reply #9 on: August 08, 2020, 09:40:51 AM »
I connect mine. In theory connecting the two should help balance the intake track much in the same way as a crossover works on the exhaust. This was recommended to me by the techs at Moto International back in 2015.

That was my thought also..  Thanks.
Paul B

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