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Offline guzzi2000

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2000 Jackal
« on: March 15, 2018, 10:34:49 PM »
Hello all, I have a 2000 Jackal with approx. 59,000 miles. It started leaking out of the boot from the drive shaft where it connects to the transmission. I have already taken it apart, and am wondering how you might remove the seal from around the shaft? What special tool or homemade tool might I use. I am on a limited budget and this is my daily rider so would like to get it back on the road sooner than later. Also, noticed that I might be needing to replace my rear rotor. I know this is not a part to skimp on but where might I get the best deal. Any suggestions. I am in North East Texas.
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Re: 2000 Jackal
« Reply #1 on: March 16, 2018, 12:09:34 AM »
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Re: 2000 Jackal
« Reply #2 on: March 16, 2018, 02:17:48 AM »
Welcome!

If you live near an AutoZone or similar, check for a seal puller to borrow.  Sometimes they have good libraries.  You leave a refundable deposit, so it ends up being free.

 50k seems like short rotor life.  Look into why it is failing.

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Re: 2000 Jackal
« Reply #3 on: March 16, 2018, 02:46:14 AM »
When I did my 95 Cali I carefully used one of these




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Re: 2000 Jackal
« Reply #4 on: March 16, 2018, 03:57:24 AM »
A self tapping screw or 2 into the seal and then lever the seal out?

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Re: 2000 Jackal
« Reply #5 on: March 16, 2018, 09:29:57 AM »
A self tapping screw or 2 into the seal and then lever the seal out?

 That has worked for me , although a seal puller will also work .

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Re: 2000 Jackal
« Reply #6 on: March 16, 2018, 11:57:47 AM »
When you install the new seal, there will be a small tendency for the shaft to catch and flip the sealing lip.  That would be a bad thing.  Seat the seal just ever so slightly and then reach in with a toothpick, etc. to make sure the lip is properly sliding and laying over the sealing portion of the shaft.  Press the seal a little further and then check the lip again.  Once you are convinced the lip is properly on the shaft you can then press the seal home.

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Re: 2000 Jackal
« Reply #7 on: March 16, 2018, 12:09:39 PM »
Was the boot cracked or ripped? Unless it was, nothing should leak from it, if properly installed.

The "seal around the shaft" might not be leaking. Oil in the boot could be migrating forward from the rear drive, especially if it was over-filled or non-original (too short) rear shocks are fitted.

If the rear rotor isn't worn under it's minimum thickness already, you might be able to have it resurfaced. I sent mine to Nolan Woodbury/Cherokee Saw & Tool in Arizona. Cost was $60. Harper's has about the best price that I could find on a new rear disc: http://www.harpermoto.com/rear-brake-disc-en-2-3-4.html
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Re: 2000 Jackal
« Reply #8 on: March 16, 2018, 12:21:48 PM »
Is this bike relatively new for you? It was not an uncommon practice to put some oil in the boot to help keep the U-joint from drying out. Remember Guzziology mentioning it saying it was also a good way to recognize a split boot.
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Re: 2000 Jackal
« Reply #9 on: March 16, 2018, 10:32:48 PM »
Thank you to all for the great replies. I am a bit of a miser when it comes to buying anything. I have had this bike since it was new. Have put the most mileage on it since I moved here from Minnesota 5 years ago, about 5 - 6000 miles a year. It started leaking maybe last summer and I was reluctant to check, would really only happen if I was riding at higher speeds like 75 - 90 miles an hour. But in the recent weeks started to spray the tire a little more noticeable. Did find a small tear in the boot, and with the drive shaft out and transmission exposed, oil has welled up on the bottom of the seal.

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Re: 2000 Jackal
« Reply #10 on: March 17, 2018, 05:03:44 AM »
i am looking at the same issue...
I found the clamp on the fwd side of the boot was loose enough that I could move it by hand.
I have tightened it up and still need to do a test run.

I also found that the "grub" screw for the carrier bearing on the bottom of the swing arm was "kinda" loose... I removed and re-installed it and it is now snug.

once I get my fuel tank sensor and tap leaks resolved I will take it for good thrash and check for leaks.

I hope it was just the boot for you.

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Re: 2000 Jackal
« Reply #11 on: March 17, 2018, 09:36:56 AM »
No, it was not just the boot for me, I thought I may get by with just tightening it but it leak a fair amount out from the boot and when I took the boot off I noticed that it had fresh oil around the seal.
On another note, would any one know if a rear rotor from a 2001 California interchange with a 2000 Jackal?
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Re: 2000 Jackal
« Reply #12 on: March 17, 2018, 03:09:46 PM »
On another note, would any one know if a rear rotor from a 2001 California interchange with a 2000 Jackal?
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Re: 2000 Jackal
« Reply #13 on: March 18, 2018, 08:25:43 AM »
Thank you Dammag, the self tapping screws did the trick, now I need to get it sized and put the new one back in without any bad language.

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Re: 2000 Jackal
« Reply #14 on: March 18, 2018, 08:42:48 AM »
Don't be cheap when it comes to seals, rotating shaft seal, I used cheap ones once and had to do it over.

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Re: 2000 Jackal
« Reply #15 on: March 22, 2018, 10:10:34 PM »
Thanks guzzisteve, was trying to go through O'Reilly's but couldn't get an exact match. Ordered the one from MG cycle just now.

 

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