NGC - PSA results

[SIR REAL ED]

On a topic that is near and dear to the hearts (and other parts) of us old farts, my Urologist & I have been monitoring my PSA levels for a few years.

AN MRI followed by a biopsy followed by another MRI show my prostate to be twice the normal volume with some lesions.

Biopsies are middle of the road in terms of risk.  My PSA has been bouncing around between 8 and 12 for about 3 years.

In April I hit a high of 15.5.  My Urologist says we should do another biopsy, or it would also be prudent to measure PSA again in November and if it is still high, we can do another biopsy guided by the last MRI.

I said "Lets wait!"  Then decided to get proactive without letting my doctor know.

Reading the book "The Great Prostate Hoax" by Dr. Richard Ablin (who discovered PSA) & Ronald Piana was interesting.

Also researching "the Joe Tippens Protocol" was fascinating.

"Finding Fenbendazole" by Rich Rasmussen was another good investment of time.

Long story short, since starting the Joe Tippens protocol in late May, my PSA numbers are as follows:

April 2025 PSA = 15.5
July 24, 2025 PSA = 11.1
October 13, 2025 PSA = 5.5

From my research and talking to my Urologist I know that PSA is not an indicator of cancer, but there is some correlation with high PSA reading & prostate problems.

Dr Ablin says that the industry decision to use a PSA level of 4 as an indicator of problems is not based on any evidence whatsoever.

So take heart, if you are concerned about your potential prostate problems, do some research, it just might ease your mind. Or convince yourself that you do have some influence over the situation.

I have an appointment for bloodwork with my Urologist a month from now.  It will be interesting to see if my PSA continues to fall, & his reaction.

I hope this helps someone.

[Sykestone8886]

Thanks for the info  great advice.

[SIR REAL ED]

I think I should have cut to the chase in my original post.

As those who are interested will soon learn, Fenbendazole is dog de-wormer!!!

It seems that parasites and cancer have some very similar life support mechanisms.

At least that is the prevailing theory among those who have looked into it.

[elrealistico]

I am glad you managed to get your PSA to drop, if its been bouncing like that for a few years, and you have no ill effects, maybe you don't have cancer. What were the results of the one biopsy you had so far. If you have no relatives that had it, you may as well keep the sawbones at arms length.

Family history of PCa caused me to get PSA done after about 50, it hovered around 4-5, then did a steady climb to 7-10.  Two biopsies and some time later, it got worse and I opted for radiation. Some ill effects, but everything works. I had radiation for a different neck cancer the year before, so I knew what to expect.

There's a lotta debate about over testing and overtreatment for PCa. The UK NHS is dropping a lot of testing recommendations for men. Risk there is that you go to the doc one day and get your 1st psa in 10 years and blammo, you have stage IV metastized to the lymph and bones like Joe Biden. Still, most men will die of something else before prostate cancer, if it stays put. If it doesn't, like Joe's case, you can likely still live another couple years, but on hormone blockers, which was no fun for the 6 months I did it at age 60. Good Luck and see ya on the road!

[SIR REAL ED]

I am glad you managed to get your PSA to drop, if its been bouncing like that for a few years, and you have no ill effects, maybe you don't have cancer. What were the results of the one biopsy you had so far. If you have no relatives that had it, you may as well keep the sawbones at arms length.

Family history of PCa caused me to get PSA done after about 50, it hovered around 4-5, then did a steady climb to 7-10.  Two biopsies and some time later, it got worse and I opted for radiation. Some ill effects, but everything works. I had radiation for a different neck cancer the year before, so I knew what to expect.

There's a lotta debate about over testing and overtreatment for PCa. The UK NHS is dropping a lot of testing recommendations for men. Risk there is that you go to the doc one day and get your 1st psa in 10 years and blammo, you have stage IV metastized to the lymph and bones like Joe Biden. Still, most men will die of something else before prostate cancer, if it stays put. If it doesn't, like Joe's case, you can likely still live another couple years, but on hormone blockers, which was no fun for the 6 months I did it at age 60. Good Luck and see ya on the road!

You are 100% right!

Based on conversations with two general practitioners (the older one is pro PSA testing and the younger one is against PSA testing), one urologist, and what I have read, Doctors can not agree on the value of PSA numbers as indicators of anything.  Even the accepted industry practice has changed over the years.

My biopsy results were exactly halfway between "nothing to worry about" and "aggressive cancer."  Since my urologist knows beyond a shadow of a doubt the PSA numbers are not reliable indicators, he chose the "active surveillance" mode.  He very deliberately said I have "lesions" that might be cancer, but said there is no proof that I actually have cancer.

Perhaps I merely had some parasites that were changing my test results.

Dr. Ablin, who discovered PSA, has been actively campaigning for decades against PSA testing as an indicator of cancer.  So much so, that in spite of a family history of prostate cancer, he refuses to have any PSA testing done on himself to see if he may have cancer.

It has been fascinating research.  Based on what I have read, anyone who thinks they may have cancer, or has been diagnosed with cancer is absolutely insane for not trying "the Joe Tippens protocol" before pursuing expensive and potentially life changing conventional treatments.

So many variables in biology and medicine, nothing is certain.

Good luck to you and yours!

[Ncdan]

Stay on top of it my friend 👍

[faffi]

Really happy if this works for you you in the long run also, Sir Real Ed - my thinking has always been that if something works, it does not matter if it is placebo, coincidence or actual effect - the result trump conventional wisdom.

It does seem, from what I have found, that Joe Tippens was a participant in the Kitruda clinical trial at the MD Anderson Cancer Center, and his improvement was likely to be the effect of immuno-cancer drugs. However, in your case, trying out fenbendazole before any traditional treatment seems sensible since there is next to no ill effects.

[SIR REAL ED]

Really happy if this works for you you in the long run also, Sir Real Ed - my thinking has always been that if something works, it does not matter if it is placebo, coincidence or actual effect - the result trump conventional wisdom.

It does seem, from what I have found, that Joe Tippens was a participant in the Kitruda clinical trial at the MD Anderson Cancer Center, and his improvement was likely to be the effect of immuno-cancer drugs. However, in your case, trying out fenbendazole before any traditional treatment seems sensible since there is next to no ill effects.

Thanks Erik.  That is exactly the way I look at it also.

From what I have read, the placebo effect averages 30% effective which is a higher efficacy rate than some industry standard medicines.

For clarification, I was never told I have cancer.  And from my research, some doctors think testing PSA is meaningless while other doctors disagree.

As they say "Noting is real until it is measured!"

And human nature being what it is, once something is measured, we tend to ascribe meaning to it. 

We tend to think the weather forecast predicting a 47% chance of rain starting at 2:13 with an accumulation of 1.03 inches is more accurate than forecast of a 50% chance of rain in the afternoon.

Apophenia - seeing patterns and images in clouds.

Roger Rasmussen's book Finding Fenbendazole is an interesting read.  He was so interested in proving he methods were working, he had seven MRI's in two years.  Not doctor ordered, he just wanted verification.  That is hardcore!!

[SIR REAL ED]

Gents (and women with prostates),

Here is the article I read back in 2019 which first tipped me off.  My wife and i were subscribers to Dr. Williams' news letter for over a decade at that point, and based on our experience with XPC powder, we trusted his expertise and I stuck the news letter in a file cabinet for potential future reference.

https://fenbendazole.s3.amazonaws.com/A-Cure-for-Cancer-Hidden-in-Plain-Sight-July-2019-Dr-David-Williams.pdf

Back in May, I remember thinking "I think I read something about cancer from Dr. Williams several years ago...."  Since I don't think biopsies and MRI's are a great way to spend a few hours, I said what the heck! 

If it makes my urologist happy, that will be two of us benefiting!!!



On a more everyday useful level, here was the catalyst for us taking XPC powder since the article was published in 2007.  Best money we ever spent.

http://www.orost.org/Alternatives/0907Walt-noColdsFlu.pdf

A few years ago, I was discussing allergy medicines with a local pharmacist.  It was August. 
I told her about my wife's and my experiences with XPC powder and offered to give her a one quart bag to try. 
She said "Sure why not?" I did not see her again until April. 
She laughed and said "My family keeps asking what I am doing different!" 
I said "Why is that?" 
She replied "Because this past fall was the first time in 30 years I did not contract Bronchitis in the fall!"

cheers

[SIR REAL ED]

Stay on top of it my friend 👍

Thanks Dan-O!