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V7III-D - Accessories and Break-In
« on: March 15, 2019, 04:45:54 AM »
With spring rapidly approaching I thought it was time to get off my butt and start getting Jenn's new V7III-Dark ready and registered.

A large box arrived recently from AF1 containing a bunch of future maintenance items and the first of her choices in accessories.

So it was into the garage earlier this week with Seamus to start prepping momma's bike.



The first job we tackled was the Sato Racing Sliders install.

A VERY nice piece of kit, and uber easy installation was done in maybe half an hour and most of that was because Seamus wants to help so I have to either do things twice or come up with more stuff so he can participate.






The second task was probably more important to the little man as it involved installing his grab handles and butt stop, the HB topcase rack. Since my German is a little rusty "ein bier bitte" I mostly looked at the pictures and scanned for any torque specs "nein, nein, ze italians zo not use ze torque wrench, ve vill not botha zo give zuch specs if zey are just going to be ignored".

So instead I went and checked out the rack I installed 5 years ago on my V7 Stone. Ahh, I see, no problem, now where's the loctite?



Overall another pretty easy task once I realized I needed to remove the frame bolts, not the sub-frame bolts right behind them. Oh, and in order to do so I had to drop the Carbon Fiber rear fender away from the frame. No big deal, just a few bolts.

The good news was that Seamus already FITS! He can sit against the topcase and put his feet on the pegs. So we'll be stopping at Cycle Gear soon for full kit for him!

Bottom line Happy Momma and Happy Moose!

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Re: V7III-D - Accessories and Break-In
« Reply #1 on: March 15, 2019, 05:02:02 AM »
I also ran a battery tender lead, which meant disconnecting the battery so any trip data was lost and I couldn't verify the first partial tank full of mileage when I had her out a month or two back.

No matter.... with the AWESOME weather that was predicted for yesterday at least I had the bike ready. When the kids were off to school momma and I headed down to the DMV and took care of the final prep (paying the man for the right to ride).

With that out of the way we snuck out to a warming day so Jenn could start getting her break-in miles in on the thing.

After topping off and resetting things on the cluster the next stop was a little mexican place for lunch.



And after a nice set of curvy roads (yeah, we went to north Jersey for lunch lol), we stopped at a favored multi-brand dealer for work (I'm working on a Grom manual right now) and to kick some Triumph tires...damn still want one of those...




As mentioned here https://wildguzzi.com/forum/index.php?topic=100076.30 (Why Not a Cali1400 Thread) we immediately ran into a Guzzi owner (on a Goldwing) and his friend on a kitted KLR (both in background behind beautiful Guzzis and well...Jenn).




A little while later we were home again, Jenn now had over 100 miles on the VD....no wait, I'm not calling it that V73D.... ok that's better.

I'm happy to report the following:

* She likes the bike a lot.
* Though not quite as effortless in the curves as her Duc she happily reported to like the handling, says it's close and much lighter than the Sporty (duh)
* Seat feels cush to her - I told her that she likes her Duc seat too which means her ass is disqualified from opinions, that she in fact has "a dumbass" - to which she replied she indeed does, but she still loves me. Guess I should have seen that coming.
* Doesn't think she'll miss the tach at all - sounded surprised the first time the damn shift light flashed - and realized that she probably won't wind this out any more than she does the Duc (which is to say she doesn't).
* Found herself obsessed with trying to get the average fuel mileage to max on the way home. Don't think I'll ever match her numbers. But it will be interesting to see how close the gauge is at the next fill-up.




Finally momma seems pleased, and I couldn't be happier.

Oh, interestingly she sat on a new Street Twin at the Triumph place and said she thought the new model felt too big (compared to the one it replaced) and was very happy with her decision not to wait and compare the Carbon with it, because she much prefers the Carbon. SWEET!

I will say the Street Twin and the Speed Twin were both drop dead gorgeous and I can see someone being VERY happy with either.  :drool: I really think Triumph upped their "entry level Bonnie" game with the Street Twin it looked and felt like fine bike. I really must find a way to add one to the fleet someday. Jenn was like "Just sell the Sportster" and I was like "OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOHHHH H NOOOOOOOOOOO YOU DIDN'T"  :shocked:
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Re: V7III-D - Accessories and Break-In
« Reply #2 on: March 15, 2019, 05:54:11 AM »
Good on ya, mate.
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Re: V7III-D - Accessories and Break-In
« Reply #3 on: March 15, 2019, 05:58:20 AM »
I enjoyed reading your post Kev!

I see more miles and smiles for you and yours in the future. :thumb:

It will be interesting to get some comparison between the two bikes in terms of the motor once you gat some break in miles on the III, and eventually bump the shift light closer to the red line of the motor.

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Re: V7III-D - Accessories and Break-In
« Reply #4 on: March 15, 2019, 06:01:36 AM »
I don't think I've ever seen a bike that clean, even in the showroom.  :thumb:

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Re: V7III-D - Accessories and Break-In
« Reply #5 on: March 15, 2019, 06:05:49 AM »
It will be interesting to get some comparison between the two bikes in terms of the motor once you gat some break in miles on the III, and eventually bump the shift light closer to the red line of the motor.

John Henry

I'm looking forward to it.

That said, I already get the impression the V7III is, as my grandfather Aldo used to say "More better".

It just feels, looks, seems a little "more" all around.

Most of the bike from the fenders to the foot controls to the instrument display to the exhaust fasteners seem to have been improved.  Hell as much as I give Jenn guff she's right, even the OEM seat is more comfortable.

I only have the one short ride on it (60 miles or so) but even during break-in the motor just felt uhh, more.... more better.

I really continue to like my Stone, more and more... but the V7III seems to be a improvement of the breed and I'm thrilled to have access to both.

If I was buying now I'd grab a III in a heartbeat!

I don't think I've ever seen a bike that clean, even in the showroom.  :thumb:

HA HA - I was joking with Jenn yesterday that this means I need to stop by a Harley dealer to buy whatever they sell to keep matte paint tanks clean lol.  :boozing:
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Re: V7III-D - Accessories and Break-In
« Reply #6 on: March 15, 2019, 06:09:14 AM »
She's gonna make you do the dishes now  :laugh:

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Re: V7III-D - Accessories and Break-In
« Reply #7 on: March 15, 2019, 07:13:29 AM »
Ahh the forthcoming spring bringing out the riders!!!!  Sounds like a nice time out and with great all around experiences. Pretty awesome day up here also.. sadly I have not yet got to pay NY for the right to ride...  maybe in the coming weeks.. 
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« Reply #8 on: March 15, 2019, 08:33:00 AM »
Nice write-up.

Have you seen any proof that those race sliders actually hold up to a slide?  I have seen many examples of long stem limited mount point sliders bending or breaking on impact. 

Of course I have to notion of how my Guzzi engine guards will fair in a slide, but I bought them to mount the LED running lights and hope to never go down.
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Re: V7III-D - Accessories and Break-In
« Reply #9 on: March 15, 2019, 08:38:23 AM »
Looks like things are coming together for many miles of family fun👍👍👍

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Re: V7III-D - Accessories and Break-In
« Reply #10 on: March 15, 2019, 08:46:17 AM »
On the matt paint cleaner thing I've used all of them.
Todd at GuzziTec has the best by a mile.  IIRC it was developed by some guy who does it for Polaris.  At any rate, it works much better than the Harley stuff, which I have along with most others.  Todd for the win here by a mile.
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Re: V7III-D - Accessories and Break-In
« Reply #11 on: March 15, 2019, 08:51:07 AM »
Have you seen any proof that those race sliders actually hold up to a slide?  I have seen many examples of long stem limited mount point sliders bending or breaking on impact. 

Of course I have to notion of how my Guzzi engine guards will fair in a slide, but I bought them to mount the LED running lights and hope to never go down.

Nope, thankfully I've not dropped my Stone with the Over Racing sliders - but yes, sliders are generally designed to slide and can shatter during some impacts. So no guarantees, better than nothing, still give us warm and fuzzies as opposed to having nothing. We both prefer the more minimal look/impact of the sliders so hopefully we never find out the hard way.

On the matt paint cleaner thing I've used all of them.
Todd at GuzziTec has the best by a mile.  IIRC it was developed by some guy who does it for Polaris.  At any rate, it works much better than the Harley stuff, which I have along with most others.  Todd for the win here by a mile.

Noted, rats, ok, I'll have to place an order. Would have been easier to pick something up locally, oh well.
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Re: V7III-D - Accessories and Break-In
« Reply #12 on: March 15, 2019, 09:00:26 AM »
HA HA - I was joking with Jenn yesterday that this means I need to stop by a Harley dealer to buy whatever they sell to keep matte paint tanks clean lol.  :boozing:

Great looking bike and write up, it was pleasure to read.
I own very similar bike, black matte with red cylinder heads and keeping it clean is very easy assuming right staff is used. I use Chemical Guys Meticulous Matte Auto Wash (https://www.chemicalguys.com/meticulous-matte-auto-wash/meticulous-matte-auto-wash.html) and Meticulous Matte Detailer (https://www.chemicalguys.com/meticulous-matte-detailer-and-spray-sealant/SPI_995_16.html).Just wash and dry the bike, spray a little of detailer on a soft rug, wipe the paint, let it dry and job is done. It take me about 1/2 hour to get my Audace in show room condition, 1 hour if I clean/wax the wheel rims.




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Re: V7III-D - Accessories and Break-In
« Reply #13 on: March 15, 2019, 09:02:14 AM »
Nice looking bike.  I was torn between a racer and the carbon, but I wanted a tach.  Will probably put the red cylinder heads on the racer eventually.

Is there a shopping list for recommended maintenance?  Aka how much if each fluid?  I've just started digging into the owner's manual and will be looking for a service manual.  Thanks in advance.

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Re: V7III-D - Accessories and Break-In
« Reply #14 on: March 15, 2019, 09:20:35 AM »
J.R.R - thanks for the tip, will look into that too.

Is there a shopping list for recommended maintenance?  Aka how much if each fluid?  I've just started digging into the owner's manual and will be looking for a service manual.  Thanks in advance.

Not really - I mean, I have the Stone too so I kinda buy in bulk, case of oil, couple of bottles of rear fluid, bottle of diff fluid, bunches of filters and stuff.

But for one service you'll need basically 2 L bottles of 10-60, and one bottle each trans (that will be good for 2 changes) and diff (that one will be good for half a dozen changes).

It's good to get some extra gaskets, crush washers etc.

AF1 sells kits (filter, oil, crush washers etc. for each spot which is one easy way of doing it. or you can go through an order a few of each crush washers etc. and buy fluids locally).
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Re: V7III-D - Accessories and Break-In
« Reply #15 on: March 15, 2019, 11:44:50 AM »
Nope, thankfully I've not dropped my Stone with the Over Racing sliders - but yes, sliders are generally designed to slide and can shatter during some impacts. So no guarantees, better than nothing, still give us warm and fuzzies as opposed to having nothing. We both prefer the more minimal look/impact of the sliders so hopefully we never find out the hard way.


Where I am located the more lights on the bike the better.  For protection bars really need 3 points of contact in a triangular pattern. 

Engine Guards, tip over bars, are definitely more proper terminology than crash bars. 

Sliders are supposed to help the bike slide instead of grabbing the road and causing the bike to flip and produce more damage and danger for the rider.

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Re: V7III-D - Accessories and Break-In
« Reply #16 on: March 15, 2019, 12:56:03 PM »
When I got my denim black Harley, I looked into what to use to clean it and then maybe restore the paint with out making it glossy. Right now the paint has a faded black/gray look to it, like you want to hit it with buffing compound. WARNING......DO NOT USE BUFFING COMPOUND ON MATTE PAINT!!!

I found that to clean it, use Windex to get bugs and the like off.

To protect/restore it was a toss up between the Chemical Bros and the F11 Top Coat https://topcoat.store/. I have not used the F11 stuff yet, so I can't say how good it is, but from vids on it, it should work.

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Re: V7III-D - Accessories and Break-In
« Reply #17 on: March 15, 2019, 04:06:48 PM »
A very nice looking bike there Kev.  That back rest/ bag rack is a neat looking unit.

Do those sliders double as forward pegs as well?
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Re: V7III-D - Accessories and Break-In
« Reply #18 on: March 15, 2019, 05:10:52 PM »

Bottom line Happy Momma and Happy Moose!



That's my idea of the perfect family pic! :thumb:
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Re: V7III-D - Accessories and Break-In
« Reply #19 on: March 15, 2019, 05:27:17 PM »
Very nice...garage time with the little ones!! Thatís a sharp looking Carbon too!!
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Re: V7III-D - Accessories and Break-In
« Reply #20 on: March 15, 2019, 06:00:12 PM »
Thanks for the kind words all.

Muzz, no the sliders aren't quite at the right angle/location to be highway pegs. But Jenn can do 300 mile days on the Monster so I don't think it's an issue lol.

Ok to follow up on the cleaners.

I wash the bikes about once a year. So what I really want is something I can spray on and wipe away a little grime once in a while.

Do any of the aforementioned products work well that way?!?
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« Reply #21 on: March 15, 2019, 08:02:13 PM »

I wash the bikes about once a year. So what I really want is something I can spray on and wipe away a little grime once in a while.

Do any of the aforementioned products work well that way?!?

I just use a spray bottle with water and a microfiber cloth.  Take the bugs off after a ride.
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« Reply #22 on: March 15, 2019, 10:23:19 PM »
Seamus is a really cute kid. 

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« Reply #23 on: March 15, 2019, 10:32:34 PM »
 Nice bikes , but what I really want is to talk to your kids again  :grin:

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Re: V7III-D - Accessories and Break-In
« Reply #24 on: March 16, 2019, 12:31:37 AM »
I just use a spray bottle with water and a microfiber cloth.  Take the bugs off after a ride.

Or with Windex.

If you want to protect the finish, then look at the F11 and Chemical. IIRR, both leave a protective finish that does not change the color of new paint, but makes it easier to clean any messes. Again, I have not used the F11 yet that is sitting on my shelf.

My HD has a grayish faded look and initially wanted to restore it. F11 claims to restore it. But the grayish makes it look like it's been around the block. I looked at a few bikes with new looking denim black, I kinda like my grayish.

Do some research on both products, both have plenty of vids on how they work.

BTW: nice looking bike!
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Re: V7III-D - Accessories and Break-In
« Reply #25 on: March 16, 2019, 06:28:06 AM »
Nice looking bike and family pic Kev. I'm just curious if you know the max load rate for the rear rack you've installed ? I have the smaller version looking for something bigger.
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Re: V7III-D - Accessories and Break-In
« Reply #26 on: March 16, 2019, 07:37:17 AM »
That said, I already get the impression the V7III is, as my grandfather Aldo used to say "More better".

It just feels, looks, seems a little "more" all around.

... but the V7III seems to be a improvement of the breed and I'm thrilled to have access to both.

Having put 8k miles on a 2TB V7 Classic, 8k miles between two 1TB "Mk1" V7's (special and racer), and about 2,500 miles on a V7III, I can concur, that the V7III is a very nice evolution over the earlier models.

* Found herself obsessed with trying to get the average fuel mileage to max on the way home. Don't think I'll ever match her numbers. But it will be interesting to see how close the gauge is at the next fill-up.

I find the MPG readout on my V7III is a few MPG optimistic.      I'll get 56 MPG on the readout, and then about 53 calculated at fill-up time.

I will say the Street Twin and the Speed Twin were both drop dead gorgeous and I can see someone being VERY happy with either.  :drool: I really think Triumph upped their "entry level Bonnie" game with the Street Twin it looked and felt like fine bike. I really must find a way to add one to the fleet someday. Jenn was like "Just sell the Sportster" and I was like "OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOHHHH H NOOOOOOOOOOO YOU DIDN'T"  :shocked:

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Re: V7III-D - Accessories and Break-In
« Reply #27 on: March 16, 2019, 09:19:52 AM »
Thanks for the tips.

No, she didn't sell the Duc.

Load rating, I'll check, I want to say 5 or 10#.
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Re: V7III-D - Accessories and Break-In
« Reply #28 on: March 16, 2019, 09:36:12 AM »
The load rating is 5 kg. for the H&B rack. :thumb: 
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Re: V7III-D - Accessories and Break-In
« Reply #29 on: March 16, 2019, 03:01:31 PM »
Would those sliders hit the ground before your cylinder head does? I assume they would but only ask since they look deceptive in your pics
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