To the Guzzi-God Father, that I had sinned...

[TimmyTheHog]

So...was at BMW dealership with my friend last weekend so he could pay for his new 1250GSA. (you could probably already see where this is going)

So was sitting on a few different bikes while waiting...the new F850GS, F750GS, and a few other BMW/Ducati in the meantime.

Now, I would never consider a brand new BMW/Ducati for the fact my wallet just isn't that deep.

Long story short, after my buddy is done, the sales man walked over to me and said he noticed I was eyeing the ADV lines. I explained what I got, and have a V85TT on order, he said "let's see what he could do"...

Initially I thought he was joking, but he somehow presented a price only thousand or so different AFTER TAX of what I would be paying for a new V85TT + the accessory with a similar decked out 2018 R1200GS Rallye LOWERED (I could flat one foot with my 29" inseam on the low setting).

Hope the Guzzi god-father would forgive me 

Don't get me wrong, I wish I could keep multiple bikes as I do love my V7, but I just don't have the room and the cash to do so...

so here I am, Guzzi-less with a BMW lurking in a Guzzi forum :P

This is the new toy...(still in shock)

[Tom H]

Nice

Your still welcome here....I think???

Tom

[RinkRat II]

      Congrats Timmy!    That's what happens when dealers actually stock motorcycles . I'm of the school if I can't sit on it I probably don't need it

         Paul B

[Perazzimx14]

When Guzzi gives you bikes then they have a say. When you spend your own money on bike you have all the say.

The BMW is 33 heavier but the extra 45 HP will more than make up for that over the TT. The GS's are well balanced and handle like a dream. They are easy and comfortable to ride.

All I can say is the only regret I have is not getting a GS sooner.

[TN Mark]

I was talking to a BMW rider (RT1200) at a hotel last week. He rode down to Austin for the motorcycle races from southern IL. He said the GS models are far and away BMW's biggest sellers. One of my brothers has a GS1200 and simply loves it.

Like has been posted, if a dealer has what you want (or could be interested in) in stock it makes transactions so much easier. Hopefully getting your down payment back (if you had one) on the V85 will be non eventful.

If other dealers can offer a BMW 1200 GS for within a $1K of the new Guzzi V85, that could spell trouble for the new Guzzi. Doesn't BMW also have a GS850?

PS - I haven't had a Moto Guzzi since March 2013 after riding them for over 35 years. I think I'm still allowed to lurk and post once in a while around here. If I could get a second bike, I'd be all over a black Eldorado 1400. But for now, that's simply not going to happen. For anything and everything Moto Guzzi, wildguzzi really is the place to be IMHO.

[cookiemech]

I think you'll be VERY happy with the BMW!

[TimmyTheHog]

As much as I love the simplicity of the good old airhead Guzzi design, I am honestly amazed how "light" the GS when it going around corner.

I actually able to U-turn sharper and better as well going down the mountain road...although I am still getting used to the extra HP & the weight at certain corners.

Truly to say I will miss my V7, but I do welcome the GS...pricey but it's fun...especially with the services...freaking flushing the brake is a 9-step program that I need a BMW machine for it lol...

My gut feeling is they want to clear out as much as 1200 as possible so they can fully promote their 1250 & 850 lines. On top of that, I know that they know they can sell the 1200 no problem.

The 2019 F850GS in the show room was fully decked out and it was just a tad more than my "new old stock" 2018 partially packaged (which is what I have on V85TT as well).

Either that or my friend is pulling string with the salesman as well which I fully welcome to the "inexpensive" bike LOL...

[Cam3512]

Congrats.  But I think (know) you’ll regret passing on the Guzzi.

[TimmyTheHog]

Congrats.  But I think (know) you’ll regret passing on the Guzzi.

TBH I am a bit of that right now...

but not because I have the GS, but rather I won't have a Guzzi...

oh well, maybe when my kid is bit older and I get a bigger place, I will hunt a vintage Guzzi down and play with it...at least that is what I would like to do 

[flip]

Nice bike! Good choice.

[fotoguzzi]

You'll be a rock star on that bike! Good for you.

[Sheepdog]

I still have my Guzzi, but I bought a '16 BMW R1200RS back in '17. I went to check out the RT, but wound up with the RS, instead. The Wethead engine is remarkable. I have never been tempted to look at the 1250 for the extra 12-14hp and the electronics package is only slightly less desirable. Besides, I got a screaming deal on mine, too. I'll be using it for a couple of tours this year. If it continues to perform as flawlessly as it has so far, it should be a great season.

Congratulations on your new bike. Hope it's as good for you as mine is for me.

[John A]

Shame on you !

[stubbie]

Nice one. I have a 1999 R1150GS. Had it about 3 years. I like riding it, it is as you say, easy to ride and does go around corners quite easy. Saw a guy do a 90 degree turn around a very tight roundabout at speed the other day and thought "sh#t how did he do that". Better rider than me I think. Wouldn't want to drop mine though, about 265kg with a full tank of gas.

[Roebling3]

Timmy'
That's called a conquest sale. It played out really well for the salesman- - - and for you. Often when all the facts are known: You're a Guzzi guy AND have one on order AND it's the newest model. A sharp salesman, using his wits or a previously designed sales strategy, offers a deeper discount. Right place at the right time for you.  Best wishes,  R3~

[usedtobefast]

So, where is this dealer?  Did he have any more of these low priced 1200s? 

When the 1250's started coming out I thought there would be "blow out" deals on the leftover 1200's ... but in California I guess there are different economics going on or something, couldn't find any deals at all.  Most places didn't have any 1200's left. 

[kingoffleece]

I'm in the local BMW club and write for one of the BMW national mags.  Those of us with other BMW's refer to "them" as the GS Mafia!
Very passionate about that model, they are.

[Chuck in Indiana]

Yes, Timmy.. yes you have. There is no absolution. It is an abomination, and it shall be cast out.
Chuck, deacon,
Church of Guzzi

[TimmyTheHog]

Lol, thanks all for the kind words...and me begging for forgiveness :P

Thanks R3 for a quick lesson and I am sure there at a right time I would say.

As for leftover, there weren't that many...maybe like 5 including the one that were traded in. And most of them already got "sold" sign on them when I was there playing around. They def sell like hot cakes. This is up in Vancouver BC.

Let's just say I am not looking forward to pick up this bike when I do go off-road which is the main purpose why I was eyeing the ADV lines.

[ohiorider]

My son,

Say 1 Our Father, 10 Hail Marys, and make an Act of Contrition.

Go .... your sins are forgiven!

Have fun on that sweet ride!

Bob

[oldbike54]

 Hmm, no one asked me about this 

 Dusty

[AH Fan]

Wow things are definitely different where you are.
There is virtually no way we could compare prices on those two machines where I reside.
It would be over double the cost for the GS.

Ciao

[grebmrof]

WOW!  What a beauty!  Congratulations!  Enjoy it!

[twowheeladdict]

Good luck with it.  Are you going to ride off-road?  If so, check out these videos. 

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCWh6PvzNVeOmEU065h-8kUw

[MGrego]

That is a very nice looking machine, however it won't do anything to enhance your mechanic skills like the Guzzi would !! 

[twowings]

Ye shall be cursed with an inexplicable thirst for $1500.00 riding jackets and $700.00 helmets.

Thou shall not pass more than 2 consecutive Starbucks without stopping.

Thy BMW dealer shall own thy soul and worldly treasures forever.

So shall it be.

[bad Chad]

The weight put out by bmw from what I could find is for the striped GS1200, anyone know the weight set up for touring?

[jbell]

Tim, congratulations and I hope you keep your presence here.  When the stars align and are within reach, grab one!

[M0T0Geezer]

{...snip}
Don't get me wrong, I wish I could keep multiple bikes as I do love my V7, but I just don't have the room and the cash to do so...

so here I am, Guzzi-less with a BMW lurking in a Guzzi forum :P

This is the new toy...(still in shock)

Wisdom Of The Ages that may be helpful one day...

(1) Multiple motorcycles cost less than multiple women.

(2) You will always get to keep your motorcycle(s) in a divorce.

'Geezer

[twowheeladdict]

Wisdom Of The Ages that may be helpful one day...

(1) Multiple motorcycles cost less than multiple women.

(2) You will always get to keep your motorcycle(s) in a divorce.

'Geezer

(2)  Seriously?  Then why was I able to buy all those slightly used bikes from "Getting a Divorce, must sell"  guys?  They might not lose it to the wife, but they lose it to the lawyer's fees.  :)