Any Lincoln MKC or Subaru Crosstrek owners?

[Lannis]

I have a 2017 Jeep Renegade Trailhawk, really like it, rides well, sharp looking, durable, my issue was more with the dealers incompetence and concerned they couldnt fix anything right the 1st time, below is what I went through when I bought it. Most recently, with 34k miles on it was the brakes were making a moaning noise when I came to a stopped and turned the vehicle. They did fix it and sanded the front rotors down which had rust on them as well as checking all the brake parts. So far so good.
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-1 visit to the dealer for the initial odometer flashing on the day I made delivery
-1 visit back to have it fixed although incorrectly
-1 visit back to have the vehicle checked again for the above service done incorrectly and diagnosed as needing a new radio
-1 visit back to have a new radio installed which hopefully is the correct fix
-1 visit back after I went to the DMV and the POA was not included
-1 visit back to pick up the corrected paperwork which turned out was still incorrect
-1 visit back after my 2nd trip to the DMV as the title was not properly documented
-1 visit to your other dealership to have a key cut but not successful
-1 trip back to Johnston to supposedly get a key cut but later turned out had to have a key fob ordered
-1 trip back to pick up the key fob

As Kev said above, it sounds like there is nothing wrong with your Jeep.   Could be that it's a fine, solid piece of equipment that anyone could own with confidence.

Why do people keep thinking that your experience makes your Jeep sound like a lemon?   I don't know much about Jeeps, having owned only a 1980 J10 pickup for 20 years, but why does this experience say anything about the quality or function of the vehicle?

I'm mighty afraid that this is a good example of why anecdotal stories about vehicles aren't really worth much as vehicle quality reviews on t'Internet ....

Lannis

[guzzi4me]

We bought a 2015 Outback new and has been one of the most reliable and fun cars we have ever owned. Do like the 3.6 engine.

Bought a 2019 Crosstrek for our 1.5 year old granddaughter based on our Subaru experience and safety record. Of course our daughter is driving it now until the granddaughter gets a bit older!!

We have been very happy with Subaru. As stated before if they built a pickup I would buy one.

Jeff

[dave1068]

As Kev said above, it sounds like there is nothing wrong with your Jeep.   Could be that it's a fine, solid piece of equipment that anyone could own with confidence.

Why do people keep thinking that your experience makes your Jeep sound like a lemon?   I don't know much about Jeeps, having owned only a 1980 J10 pickup for 20 years, but why does this experience say anything about the quality or function of the vehicle?

I'm mighty afraid that this is a good example of why anecdotal stories about vehicles aren't really worth much as vehicle quality reviews on t'Internet ....

Lannis

Well said, my issue was never the jeep itself which i really like, more that the dealer was incapable of repairing things right the 1st time. The flashing odometer was the only car-related issue which was fixed right after 3 visits. The rest were the staff's incompetence. Hopefully from here on out I have no major mechanical issues. Heres a pic of the vehicle in question. I love the color....

[steven c]

 Sounds like the dealer I had when I bought my 88 S10 pick up. I finally ask them,do you really work on my truck or just drive it around back and call me to tell me its ready? The service writer didn't like that.

[fotoguzzi]

Since you show pic of Jeep I'll add my Subi..

[Rough Edge racing]

 Jeep? If it ain't got straight axles it ain't a Jeep, LOL....For the first time since 1990 we are without a XJ Cherokee, our daughter needed a car so my wife sold her the loved 99 XJ...A series of well used high mileage 5 speed ones that seemed to never needed repairs other than the usual wear items...We replaced it with an 02 Honda CRV 5 speed to continue our long list of $2500 vehicles...

[tazio]

Since you show pic of Jeep I'll add my Subi.

Sweet! This thread is picking up!
Here's the Jeep we rented and drove to Moab (The Shafer Trail..)

[Kev m]

Heep? Did someone say HEEP!

We love ours... (both, as the wife has a 2012 GC Limited that has been absolutely trouble-free for 85k miles so far. Doesn't burn a DROP of oil in 8k+ mile oil changes, has only ever needed brake pads, tires, and one thermostat.

But I'm partial to mine!



That said the Renegades look like fun too!

[Groover]

Sweet! This thread is picking up!

Ha! - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S-IkWpm7TS0

[tazio]

 

[elvisboy77]

Subaru has had yet another major recall, this time something comes loose in the engine causing "sudden loss of power" LMAO.

They are junk.  I don't care what anyone says here, go look at the statistics at NHTSA.Gov on recalls.

My sister had a 2013 Something.  Burned a quart of oil every 700 miles, with 20k miles on the clock.  They insisted that was normal.  I asked them to show me where the storage bin was for the EIGHT QUARTS OF OIL to be added between changes lol.

They replaced the entire engine, but who has these issues in 2013? 

JUNK

[elvisboy77]

They may be great cars , but their current US advertising campaign is so irritating I wouldn’t be able to bring myself to own one!

Which one- "The safety and security of all wheel drive" or "Built in zero landfill manufacturing plants".  Disgusting.  I wonder if they recycle the bad engines they are so good at making ? LOL

[JohninVT]

I’ve owned quite a few Subaru’s.  Stay away from the 2.5l engine.  90% of Subaru engine issues are with the 2.5l.  They suffer high oil consumption AND typically need the heads done every 80k miles.  That’s an easy $2,000. 

You can’t swing a dead cat without hitting a Subaru in New England.  That’s not because we’re all lesbians.  Subaru’s are popular with us straight folk too.  They’re genuinely fun to drive on gravel or snow.  They get better mileage than most SUV’s.  They have decent interior space in Forester or Impreza wagon trim. They can be reliable...if you get the right one.  Even if you get a bad one, the cause and fix is well known.  There’s no mystery to solve to get one sorted.

[LowRyter]

Is a RAV4 or HRV out of the question?

I have an Isuzu Trooper, just over 100k, new tires on it.  Stick.  V6. Prolly make you a deal.  Seems like those things will go forever.

[Rough Edge racing]

I’ve owned quite a few Subaru’s.  Stay away from the 2.5l engine.  90% of Subaru engine issues are with the 2.5l.  They suffer high oil consumption AND typically need the heads done every 80k miles.  That’s an easy $2,000. 

You can’t swing a dead cat without hitting a Subaru in New England.  That’s not because we’re all lesbians.  Subaru’s are popular with us straight folk too.  They’re genuinely fun to drive on gravel or snow.  They get better mileage than most SUV’s.  They have decent interior space in Forester or Impreza wagon trim. They can be reliable...if you get the right one.  Even if you get a bad one, the cause and fix is well known.  There’s no mystery to solve to get one sorted.

 And the piston slap.....I had a nice 99 Forester 5 speed bought used around 2006....By the time it had 100K miles, both head gaskets were leaking, all four wheels bearings need replacement, the AC failed, power window master switch failed. But other than that it was a nice driving car..I get the impression that Subarus are like Beetles, owners will shine on all sorts of shortcomings because they like the vehicle...

[jcctx]

Have a 2017 MKC; only 11K miles but no issues to date. Great ride and drive for small vehicle. Mines is the 285 HP 2.3 liter. Only draw back is it is a bit small sometimes for hauling "stuff"!!

[blackcat]

I get the impression that Moto Guzzi's are like Beetles, owners will shine on all sorts of shortcomings because they like the vehicle...

Just saying......

[JohninVT]

And the piston slap.....I had a nice 99 Forester 5 speed bought used around 2006....By the time it had 100K miles, both head gaskets were leaking, all four wheels bearings need replacement, the AC failed, power window master switch failed. But other than that it was a nice driving car..I get the impression that Subarus are like Beetles, owners will shine on all sorts of shortcomings because they like the vehicle...

Did I stutter?  The 2.5’s had issues.  I’d still take a Subaru over an Audi or VW when it comes to reliability. 

[bratman2]

December 2019 Subaru set it's 11th year straight sales record breaking streak! Now let me think, who else can make that claim while they build junk!!! Must be only Subaru!

But on a sad note yesterday morning my little 32 year old Brat bit the dust. Over 29 years of working shift work I did a 3.5 second too long blink on the way home. Brat doesn't recover from a slid on the rain to well, smacked the ditch doing, well way too fast!

[steven c]

 My 2012 Subaru, one short block because of oil usage, that one was fine didn't use any oil but then I discovered an oil leak so they replaced that one at 80K, now this one uses a couple of Quarts every 5K,I also had to replace the center dif, at 93K luckily the PO got the extended warranty which I transferred to me so that saved me $1600, also the right axle was done at around 85K under warranty. Now with 115000 not sure if I should keep or sell.I like the car,it's fun to drive (5 speed manual) can fill it full of camping gear can go down bad dirt roads and it has a 1500lb towing which is good for my small trailer. Its my 3rd Subaru I had a brand new 74DL, a 97 Outback , and now the 12 Forester.

[dave1068]

*********Thanks for all the comments on Subarus and the Lincoln, Im keeping my Jeep as my issues were never w/ the Jeep but the horrible service the dealer provided, they seem to have improved this time around*********

[Bulldog9]

*********Thanks for all the comments on Subarus and the Lincoln, Im keeping my Jeep as my issues were never w/ the Jeep but the horrible service the dealer provided, they seem to have improved this time around*********

Not for nothing, but why ask about other vehicles when the issue is the dealer? Just go to a new dealer.....

[Rich A]

Anyone see the Subaru Forester Ultimate Customised Kit?

I think it's a real thing.

Rich A

[GeorgiaGuzzi]

Dave, we have a 2016 renegade trailhawk. No major problems at all. The cooling fan went out around 45k miles, was replaced under warranty with an updated unit. Your ‘17 should be good to go. We have 77k on ours currently. I do take it out from time to time for wheeling, the bash plates work great. It’s had few little things, but it’s basically a fiat, so I just google it, fix it, and go on.

Seriously about the dealers tho, we’ve got several here in GA including the local dealer that if something serious happens we are NOT taking either our Jeep or our fiat 500 to! Worst service department I’ve seen. Specifically Don Jackson in Union City and Scott Evans here in Carrollton. I’ll push before I use them again!

https://www.instagram.com/p/BouqnKTnfNFumHmmk4RxD3_9yRPx5TTF6WQ5Bw0/?igshid=sung56b4ykhr

[LowRyter]

Anyone see the Subaru Forester Ultimate Customised Kit?

I think it's a real thing.

Rich A

yes it is.

LMAO............... ....

[brider]

  My 98 literally exploded a rear differential due to 'torque bind' because son mis-matched tires. 

Not really the Subie's fault if it's as you state, but I've always wondered what the failure mode would be in a case like this (thread creep, sorry). I had a friend who had a Jeep Wrangler who insisted on driving in 4WD on hard pavement in the winter because someone told him he could, but the transfer case slowly wore out bearings and developed gear whine and lash, but didn't "explode".

How mis-matched were the tire sizes? Was it mis-match left/right on the rear axle, or rear axle/front axle (like a hot-rod with bigger tires on the rear)?