Author Topic: Place your bets.. (Read 18396 times)

Antietam Classic Cycle · « **Reply #30 on:** January 28, 2020, 12:08:07 PM »

I don't mind wearing gloves, because they protect my hands from cuts, punctures, etc.

Chuck in Indiana · « **Reply #31 on:** January 28, 2020, 02:01:45 PM »

Quote from: normzone on January 27, 2020, 07:03:54 PM

While I think several of you are correct in your diagnoses, what I look forward to is pictures of the frame after he has it crabbed.

Here ya go, Norman..

oldbike54 · « **Reply #32 on:** January 28, 2020, 02:05:08 PM »

^^^My entire body just cringed ...

Dusty

Chuck in Indiana · « **Reply #33 on:** January 28, 2020, 02:06:04 PM »

Quote from: blackcat on January 28, 2020, 12:01:06 PM

Can we get a photo of the before washing off grunge fingers?

I'd have to hold the phone in my mouth and.. oh never mind.

Chuck in Indiana · « **Reply #34 on:** January 28, 2020, 02:08:57 PM »

Quote from: oldbike54 on January 28, 2020, 02:05:08 PM

^^^My entire body just cringed ...

Dusty

don't worry, Dusty.. I put a 2X4 between the frame and heads so it wouldn't come crashing down when I pulled the transmission.

Chuck in Indiana · « **Reply #35 on:** January 28, 2020, 02:10:28 PM »

For those of you that bet "transmission input hub" bzzzzzt. You lose.

Chuck in Indiana · « **Reply #36 on:** January 28, 2020, 02:12:22 PM »

For those that bet "clutch splines" the house rakes in the chips again.

Chuck in Indiana · « **Reply #37 on:** January 28, 2020, 02:14:33 PM »

I'm *not* a Guzzi mechanic, but this looks ok to me. Maybe just needs a dab of grease?

Muzz · « **Reply #38 on:** January 28, 2020, 02:17:36 PM »

It's obvious to me that the gizmo has come loose from the whozzix.

Tighten it up and throw a new set of clutch plates at it.

Antietam Classic Cycle · « **Reply #39 on:** January 28, 2020, 02:19:08 PM »

Quote from: Chuck in Indiana on January 28, 2020, 02:14:33 PM

I'm *not* a Guzzi mechanic, but this looks ok to me. Maybe just needs a dab of grease?

Measure the depth of the hole in the center. Should be around 6.5 mm IIRC.

oldbike54 · « **Reply #40 on:** January 28, 2020, 02:20:05 PM »

Chuckie , it was the sight of a crabbed frame that made me cringe

Guessing Shorty felt a painful jolt also

Dusty

Chuck in Indiana · « **Reply #41 on:** January 28, 2020, 02:20:43 PM »

Unfortunately, for those of you on the edge of your seats (and me)

I'm a 'Merican, and don't have any of those sissy metric bolts to compress the pressure plate, so I'm going to have to make a hardware store run. Then, make a gizmo for the bolt to work against.. so it might be tomorrow until we get to the bottom of this case..
Yeah, I made one once before on the Strada, but when I make a Guzzi tool, I give it to Andy T, and he's 50 miles away.

Chuck in Indiana · « **Reply #42 on:** January 28, 2020, 02:24:15 PM »

Quote from: Antietam Classic Cycle on January 28, 2020, 02:19:08 PM

Measure the depth of the hole in the center. Should be around 6.5 mm IIRC.

Thanks, Charlie.. I'll do that when I get back from the hardware.

Groover · « **Reply #43 on:** January 28, 2020, 02:42:37 PM »

Thanks for the photos so far. Those balancing act photos are invaluable (or is it valuable?) for anyone tackling this on the same bike type. The bike looks like a ballerina

LowRyter · « **Reply #44 on:** January 28, 2020, 03:04:45 PM »

Quote from: oldbike54 on January 28, 2020, 02:20:05 PM

Chuckie , it was the sight of a crabbed frame that made me cringe Guessing Shorty felt a painful jolt also

Dusty

Shorty?

I thought you were going to mention Mr Nevada.

80CX100 · « **Reply #45 on:** January 28, 2020, 03:20:10 PM »

I own a bike with matching "country clutch" behavior, so I find this very informative to watch

I'm surprised that at 100K miles the splines look that good, I was expecting wear and carnage.

I wouldn't recognize the difference; are those the original lighter 2 mm ? splines or were they replaced with newer improved 4 mm? at some point.

It's inspiring watching you roll your sleeves up and get sh*t done

I've never used the skin barrier creme, impressive. I started wearing light mechanics gloves quite a while ago, but always struggle when it comes to fine stuff.

tks for sharing

Kelly

Antietam Classic Cycle · « **Reply #46 on:** January 28, 2020, 03:23:17 PM »

Quote from: 80CX100 on January 28, 2020, 03:20:10 PM

I wouldn't recognize the difference; are those the original lighter 2 mm ? splines or were they replaced with newer improved 4 mm? at some point.

Those are the improved/later 4 mm splines and not original to the bike. Someone has replaced the clutch at least once already.

Chuck in Indiana · « **Reply #47 on:** January 28, 2020, 03:25:48 PM »

Quote from: Antietam Classic Cycle on January 28, 2020, 02:26:21 PM

Surely you can thread a piece of rod M12-1.5 and can find the same sized nut on the bike or in your stash?

I have (almost) every 'Merican tap and die you can think of but very little in the way of metric. I really don't have any metric stash, either.

Unfortunately, I came back from the hardware with an M12X1.25.. Doh!

Looks as if I'm done for the day. <grumbling and shuffling off>

bad Chad · « **Reply #48 on:** January 28, 2020, 03:35:58 PM »

Looks a lot like Luap’s 1400, disassembled and all. Guess now you better put it back together and sell it as soon as possible! Surely, there is no way it can possibly run right now!!

Chuck in Indiana · « **Reply #49 on:** January 28, 2020, 04:20:22 PM »

Quote from: bad Chad on January 28, 2020, 03:35:58 PM

Looks a lot like Luap’s 1400, disassembled and all. Guess now you better put back together and sell it as sad possible! Surely, there is no way it can possibly run right now!!

true.. true. And that would be Shirley.

ccoli · « **Reply #50 on:** January 29, 2020, 12:02:35 AM »

I see your last post was @4:20
Coincidence?
I got a spare intermediate plate, when you decide you need one. Buried in a storage unit in the frozen tundra. Come and get it.
Actually you're gonna have to wait a bit as I'm busy making the earth move down in Jamaica. All is well here.

Chuck in Indiana · « **Reply #51 on:** January 29, 2020, 07:21:12 AM »

Coincidence? Yeah, but it wouldn't be if I was in Jamaica, mon..

You have this retirement gig figured out..

fotoguzzi · « **Reply #52 on:** January 29, 2020, 07:27:29 AM »

I have the bolt and compression tools if you want to borrow, I could get to shipper this morning..

Chuck in Indiana · « **Reply #53 on:** January 29, 2020, 07:38:11 AM »

Quote from: fotoguzzi on January 29, 2020, 07:27:29 AM

I have the bolt and compression tools if you want to borrow, I could get to shipper this morning..

Thanks, Brad.. but I'll "get er done" (redneck term) today.

kirby1923 · « **Reply #54 on:** January 29, 2020, 09:28:24 AM »

Quote from: Chuck in Indiana on January 28, 2020, 02:20:43 PM

Unfortunately, for those of you on the edge of your seats (and me) I'm a 'Merican, and don't have any of those sissy metric bolts to compress the pressure plate, so I'm going to have to make a hardware store run. Then, make a gizmo for the bolt to work against.. so it might be tomorrow until we get to the bottom of this case..
Yeah, I made one once before on the Strada, but when I make a Guzzi tool, I give it to Andy T, and he's 50 miles away.

I feel your pain!

When I went to school it was all SAE but...later when I started back into the design business the protocol that was common was ..ugh metric..

I had a hard time getting used to KG Lbs. and all the metric metrics.

Now I just do it in the cad systems and have acquired a bunch of the metric tools...I'm an old dog but even surprising to me I have adapted.

:-)

John Croucher · « **Reply #55 on:** January 29, 2020, 10:08:15 AM »

What is this "compression tool" you speak of? I have taken clutches apart and put back together without any special tool. Including lining up and centering clutch plate splines.

RinkRat II · « **Reply #56 on:** January 29, 2020, 10:36:25 AM »

Quote from: Chuck in Indiana on January 28, 2020, 02:10:28 PM

For those of you that bet "transmission input hub" bzzzzzt. You lose.

Maybe just the angle of the picture, but the face and O.D. of the bore for the clutch pin look worn to my eye. Looks like somethin's been rubbing.

Paul B

Antietam Classic Cycle · « **Reply #57 on:** January 29, 2020, 11:02:33 AM »

Quote from: RinkRat II on January 29, 2020, 10:36:25 AM

Maybe just the angle of the picture, but the face and O.D. of the bore for the clutch pin look worn to my eye. Looks like somethin's been rubbing.

Paul B

That's the way it's made, no wear there.

RinkRat II · « **Reply #58 on:** January 29, 2020, 11:30:45 AM »

Thanks Charlie!, I guess Guzzi's finishing process leaves a little to be desired

Paul B

beardog · « **Reply #59 on:** January 29, 2020, 03:01:03 PM »

Chuck
Nice thread I like it.

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