Subaru to become a Toyota affiliate

[jpv7]

Agreed. 

I should have also mentioned that Subaru has extended the warranty on my 2013 Outback's engine, CVT and electric parking brake to 10 years (I think).  The engine extension was specifically for the oil consumption issue.  Good on them for that...

[elvisboy77]

"The safety and security of all wheel drive"  and "built in zero landfill manufacturing plants".  Classic Subaru lies LOL!  Here's hoping it doesn't rub off on Toyota.

[bratman2]

Subaru owners are hoping runaway Toyota doesn't rub off on them and kill someone!

[LowRyter]

Toyota and Subaru are part of the keiretsu system.   (In Japan a conglomeration of businesses linked together by cross-shareholdings to form a robust corporate structure.)

Honda by comparison is largely independent in the auto business although has many affiliates in the motorcycle business. 

[kidsmoke]

I'd look at an Ecoboost Ford truck, but I'm still leery of long term reliabilty.  We'll see when the time comes ...

Among my first cousins, I've got 3 retired Ford engineers and one 32 year Master Certified Ford mechanic, who's still at it, although finally spared having to do to much wrenching, a mixed blessing. Also, my lead Admin at work, a good friend of many years, is married to a 30 year Ford Master Mechanic.

I'd been itching for a midsize truck, and all 5 men, still getting paid by Ford, told me they wouldn't touch the new Ranger's Ecoboost with a ten foot pole, if long term ownership was the plan.

As a result I'm in my 5th Toyota, a '13 Tacoma (found a very low mileage used, private sale. 2nd Tacoma I've owned). Lovefest. Intentional engaged ownership is key, kinda like Guzzi's. If you know and monitor the weak points, you're likely to enjoy years and years of use. Worth noting that even among Toyota fanboys, the new Tacoma's (2016+) are not getting all positive press either...

As a New Englander, Suub's have a earned a pretty solid reputation for (rusty) longevity, again, with intentional engaged ownership. I owned an 86 1800 GL that was the best car in snow of all the 4x4's I've had (Subaru, Isuzu, Mazda and Toyota)

This union doesn't bother me too much. They've been crossbreeding for a while.

[jpv7]

Among my first cousins, I've got 3 retired Ford engineers and one 32 year Master Certified Ford mechanic, who's still at it, although finally spared having to do to much wrenching, a mixed blessing. Also, my lead Admin at work, a good friend of many years, is married to a 30 year Ford Master Mechanic.

I'd been itching for a midsize truck, and all 5 men, still getting paid by Ford, told me they wouldn't touch the new Ranger's Ecoboost with a ten foot pole, if long term ownership was the plan.

As a result I'm in my 5th Toyota, a '13 Tacoma (found a very low mileage used, private sale. 2nd Tacoma I've owned). Lovefest. Intentional engaged ownership is key, kinda like Guzzi's. If you know and monitor the weak points, you're likely to enjoy years and years of use. Worth noting that even among Toyota fanboys, the new Tacoma's (2016+) are not getting all positive press either...

As a New Englander, Suub's have a earned a pretty solid reputation for (rusty) longevity, again, with intentional engaged ownership. I owned an 86 1800 GL that was the best car in snow of all the 4x4's I've had (Subaru, Isuzu, Mazda and Toyota)

This union doesn't bother me too much. They've been crossbreeding for a while.

Thanks for the input.  Yes, although not perfect, I will probably go back to Toyota for my next Tacoma.  I know what I'm gonna get. 

The jury is still out on my 2013 Subaru as I only have 78,000 km on it.  Interested to see how it does.  So far, so good.  it's only been back to the dealer for 2 recalls (wiper, air bag).  Nothing else has gone wrong (knock on wood).  I must say that there is no contest in the snow - the Subaru is miles better than the 4X4 Toyota in the snow.

[Muzz]

A lot of the Subi's have steering racks made out of cheese.

The son's metal recycling bin in his power steer business have discarded Subauru racks sticking out like ack ack guns, especially those with the motor on the rack. The teeth on the rack wear badly in the middle and develop play, and promptly get rejected on their Warrant of Fitness test.

[Canada72]

First off, let me clarify that I do not like Toyota vehicles, mainly due to their styling or rather lack thereof. Their interiors also scream bland and cheap, cheap, cheap.

However, I work with two dealer groups owning more than
70 dealerships each, covering most brands. Off the record, they will tell you they have the least warranty claims at their Toyota and Lexus stores.

Most people buy Toyota’s for reliable transportation, not because they are passionate about cars, in the same way you buy a toaster, because you want toast in the morning.

Now get back to talking passionately about your two wheeled beauties.