1400 Touring vs. 1400 Eldorado

[Kevin M]

I’ve tried to read as much as I can about the differences between the Eldorado & the 1400 Touring but I still don’t feel like I have all the answers.
I read some threads that say the seat height is of the Eldo is lower than the Touring. Has anyone sat side by side on these two bikes? I know the the Eldo has tubeless tires, are there any other benefits that make one model better than the other?
I really like the Eldo but it’s disappointing that the bag options are so limited. I know you can put Touring bags on it but they are pretty expensive & the only stock option for the Eldo is leather bags.
I read about the weld letting loose on the Touring where the crossover connects, I’m wondering how often that happens.
Any advice or information appreciated.

[Zoom Zoom]

Tubeless polished aluminum wheels with stainless spokes, narrower rear tire, smaller diameter front tire. (Much better selection of rubber all around.)Covered fork tubes and shocks, fenders offer more coverage. I would call them differences rather than benefits with the exception of tire selection. Solo seat is very comfortable. Factory gel is even better. I believe the handlebars are different too. (Wider maybe. I'm not positive.) I've not had any trouble with the crossover on mine.

Check your PM's.

John Henry

[TN Mark]

I greatly favor the Eldorado over the CA Touring from an aesthetics and a comfort standpoint. The seat, imho, is the big difference along the angle of the handlebars. All the 1400 l bikes are actually near identical underneath the seat and the fenders. Wheel selection and floorboard v peg subframe the other. I was at a dealer where i was able to sit on them both a few times. I felt like I was sitting ‘on’ the CA Touring and ‘in’ the Eldorado. I also felt like I was pushed too far forward on the CA Touring. I keep holding out hope that Piaggio will allow Guzzi to assemble a 1400 ‘Ambassador’ for their Centenial celebration next year that will have the ‘touring’ amenities of the CA Touring with the improved aesthetics of the Eldorado.

The current leather bag option on the Eldorado is very expensive and, again imho, they look awful on the bike. Something like an afterthought where you have a goofy looking square bag against a beautifully rounded rear fender. The old Swiss made leather bags they sold for the Bassa would look much better than those square things. The CA Touring bags certainly work but the mounts need a bit of modification. Guzzi showed an Eldorado at a show with a passenger backrest with an integrated luggage rack. They never did bring it out as it apparently ’slipped through the cracks’  a few years ago. No one at Piaggio seems capable of actually finding it and making one. Currently I believe the only way to get that setup is to also exchange the Eldorado seat for the CA Touring seat thereby taking away from the beautiful Eldorado aesthetics.

[TN Mark]

Again, imho, take whatever advise John Henry will offer on the Eldorado. His bike is beautiful and he’s already done the legwork to make it so.

[roadventure]

the TOURING is better.  (there, that was easy...) 

[Ncdan]

I had a 2015 tourer and to be perfectly honest I’m not sure why it was labeled by MG as a “tourer” in the first place.
It came with an extremely poor windshield that knocked little of the wind and elements off the rider, no lowers or leg lowers and no reasonable way to add any, radio or reasonable way to add one and the straw that broke  the camels back, not even a luggage rack.
Not kicking the bike, it’s a great bike, it’s just not a, quote/unquote “a tourer”.

[ampm7]

I really do like the Eldo. I bought this one in January and one of the reasons was that it had bags. Because I know how expensive and difficult it can be to get bags for a bike that wasn't initially designed with them in mind. The seat is one of the only seats that I find comfortable with a bad back and in need of a hip replacement. I have not sat on the Cal1400 so I can't chime in on that however, I think I saw one on the backroads a few weeks ago and that is the only 1400 series bikes including mine that I have seen on the road in 6 months of ownership. Rare breed, indeed! When I had my EV I had to design mounts and spray color matched National bags and so on for a lot of bikes that I have had. Bikes and bags out of Italy made the bags for the Eldo but they don't seem to on their website anymore.


giphy wonder woman

[LowRyter]

I've only ridden the Touring.  Do any of the 1400 models have a standard riding position?  Even the Touring seemed to set me like a Harley with my feet out in front of me.

[moto-uno]

   Having just purchased a 2018 Eldorado from International motorsports in Langley B.C . I can say that as
far as the saddles go , the passenger was good for a half hour and the rider ( for me 5'11'' , 185lb ) is good
for about double that and the fact that the foam is barely an inch thick (where you actually sit ) is the reason
I've taken up seat making . The one I made for my wife , she calls game changing and hopefully mine will be similar .
I've made a backrest for her and some bolt on brackets for the temporary saddlebags I have . Pics to follow.
Peter

[Bud]

     I have a 2014 Touring and I like it a lot but if I could build a bike from the two it would be like this: Touring model with the luggage rack and backrest, Eldo seat (Touring seat is too narrow for me and digs into my legs a bit), Eldo rims and tires (better handling and tire choice and I love spoked wheels!) Gee now that I look at it I think I'm like most here, offer an Eldo with nice looking, high capacity bags with a backrest and luggage rack!

[Bud]

     Forgot the most important part. The Eldo wasn't available in 2014 but I would have still bought the Touring for the bags. I think the Touring is a better value as a package, not perfect but very good.

[johnl]

I’ve tried to read as much as I can about the differences between the Eldorado & the 1400 Touring but I still don’t feel like I have all the answers.
I read some threads that say the seat height is of the Eldo is lower than the Touring. Has anyone sat side by side on these two bikes? I know the the Eldo has tubeless tires, are there any other benefits that make one model better than the other?
I really like the Eldo but it’s disappointing that the bag options are so limited. I know you can put Touring bags on it but they are pretty expensive & the only stock option for the Eldo is leather bags.
I read about the weld letting loose on the Touring where the crossover connects, I’m wondering how often that happens.
Any advice or information appreciated.
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I originally ordered a Cali but when I saw the Eldo in the shop I fell in love with it and bought that instead. The missus wasn't to happy with the pillion pad and we needed luggage for touring so with a few changes and accessories that can be pretty much swapped at will I think I now have a bike for all seasons.
As far as the crossover is concerned I think that was limited to 1st models, mine is a 2015 and has had no problems in 57,000kms