V85 facelift

[Caffeineo]

Questions for Huzo. Just got my Arrow head pipes and want to do the lower muffler like you did. Can you tell me which model Mivv you have? Is it straight through with or without the DB killer? How long is it? My concern is that it may be too loud for me. I know that is very subjective. The one video I saw only shows the bike at idle. With a helmet and riding at a constant speed do you hear it? Thank you and I am happy to start another thread if you think that may be better. No hurry as I need to get the muffler and find a shop to make the connector. Cheers. 

[Huzo]

Questions for Huzo. Just got my Arrow head pipes and want to do the lower muffler like you did. Can you tell me which model Mivv you have? Is it straight through with or without the DB killer? How long is it? My concern is that it may be too loud for me. I know that is very subjective. The one video I saw only shows the bike at idle. With a helmet and riding at a constant speed do you hear it? Thank you and I am happy to start another thread if you think that may be better. No hurry as I need to get the muffler and find a shop to make the connector. Cheers. 

I’ll have to go back and try to find the model number for you, it’s important to get the left hand one.
Also if I did it again I’d be tempted to go for the oval section one, it would be easier to get it tucked away underneath and still in line with the centreline. But I’m satisfied with it.
Old mate reckons when I pass him at 100 kph, it’s only barely audible, which I tend to reckon would be right.
In answer to your other questions…
I run the dB killer, it is too loud without IMO.
This is without https://youtu.be/W9ulUhJgVwk
This is with https://youtu.be/Li8qvFVuAJ8
I’ll admit they sound scarily similar, but the second one is in confined space.
Suffice to say, it is too loud without, both at idle and in use. I find that with the restrictor in, it is ok but I would not want it louder. I’m away at present, but I’ll shoot another video when I get back with the “quieter” version out in the open.
In reality, it’s about the same as a Ducati monster but a bit more mellow. On the road at 100 kph, it’s really ideal.
I’ll get back to you.

[Caffeineo]

I’ll have to go back and try to find the model number for you, it’s important to get the left hand one.
Also if I did it again I’d be tempted to go for the oval section one, it would be easier to get it tucked away underneath and still in line with the centreline. But I’m satisfied with it.
Old mate reckons when I pass him at 100 kph, it’s only barely audible, which I tend to reckon would be right.
In answer to your other questions…
I run the dB killer, it is too loud without IMO.
This is without https://youtu.be/W9ulUhJgVwk
This is with https://youtu.be/Li8qvFVuAJ8
I’ll admit they sound scarily similar, but the second one is in confined space.
Suffice to say, it is too loud without, both at idle and in use. I find that with the restrictor in, it is ok but I would not want it louder. I’m away at present, but I’ll shoot another video when I get back with the “quieter” version out in the open.
In reality, it’s about the same as a Ducati monster but a bit more mellow. On the road at 100 kph, it’s really ideal.
I’ll get back to you.

Thank you so much. Especially about the tip on the oval shape. 

[Huzo]

Bump for Dirk.

[Caffeineo]

Just had a shop make the connector pipe and mount the new "Yoshimura" muffler. https://www.aliexpress.com/item/3256803455557656.html
I am planning on moving the muffler support more to the center. The vertical movement is very little but the passenger peg bracket has more horizontal movement than I would have expected. Sounds great. I can hear it when revving and accelerating but when cruising I only hear the wind noise. Side bags are about half full and have everything I want to carry for my day trips. Happy to get the tail bag off as it was a PITA to swing a leg up and over. I also need to figure out a way to keep the sidestand off the connector pipe. My size 14 hits it now. 

[Huzo]

Nice work.
That muffler doesn’t seem too expensive.

[Caffeineo]

Thanks. I'm really happy with the way it turned out. The oval Mivv was almost as big horizontal as the round one. Had a hard time finding a less fat muffler and this one seemed to be the best. Have not tried it without the db killers out as I am sure it will be too loud. Thanks for the great low muffler idea. 

[Huzo]

Thanks. I'm really happy with the way it turned out. The oval Mivv was almost as big horizontal as the round one. Had a hard time finding a less fat muffler and this one seemed to be the best. Have not tried it without the db killers out as I am sure it will be too loud. Thanks for the great low muffler idea. 

No worries.
It looks good, but if you ditch the rear ‘pegs you can get a more upward sweep to it. In addition to any perceived aesthetic benefit, you’ll have more clearance.
Once you’ve cut the left one off, the right doesn’t hurt as much…

[lucky phil]

Sorry but it looks horrible for mine. Looks like what it is, an $80 muffler solution. Horizontal mufflers are a bit 50's Pommie bike. Like an old Norton International.

Phil

[Huzo]

The perspective on the shot distorts the image somewhat. A side on view with the bike up straight would give a different impression.
You can see how big the helmet looks by comparison to the bike, it is a distortion by the lens I think.

[kingoffleece]

"................... .........decommissi oned Bulgarian circus cart."

THIS, ladies and germs, it the shining star of the thread to date!
Lovely bike, mate.  Well done.

[Huzo]

Caffeino, you can see the extra space available by removing the rear pegs.




I could pretty easily work something out later if I wanted to re instate them.

[Huzo]

"................... .........decommissi oned Bulgarian circus cart."

THIS, ladies and germs, it the shining star of the thread to date!

I can see it now…(wavy dream sequence with harp music overlay…).
Some dirty faced hairy ex weight lifter, wearing a torn dark blue singlet, cigarette in mouth and forearms like Popeye, introducing the “lady”  , on the trapeze above 15 mesmerised fans.
I think he might be the same guy with the drink cart talking to Homer.
https://youtu.be/4NFv5IGP2uA

[kingoffleece]

SPOT on!

[Caffeineo]

Caffeino, you can see the extra space available by removing the rear pegs.
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I could pretty easily work something out later if I wanted to re instate them.

As the wife does not like to ride I could easily remove them. Have also had a slight problem with them not wanting to fold down. Gotta keep oiling them up.
I really do not need any more space but it may improve the looks.......but more concerned with function over style. ;)
Already have had to take a dab when off road that would have been painful with a solid case out there. :O

[Huzo]

Bumped for Double Thumper.

[DoubleThumper]

Whew!  Super awesome Huzo.  Thank you.

This is quite the project.  Looks to be some exciting reading.

[Huzo]

Whew!  Super awesome Huzo.  Thank you.

This is quite the project.  Looks to be some exciting reading.

Yeah, but it’s done bit by bit.

[ridingron]

Caffeino, you can see the extra space available by removing the rear pegs.




I could pretty easily work something out later if I wanted to re instate them.

I'm sure with your skill set and imagination that you could cobble something up. Currently priced at $105 (USD), would it be worth the troubles?  Since you cut the right side also, I guess the price would be doubled. But so would the cobbling. 

https://www.af1racing.com/2B005631-MACHINED-LH-PASSENGER-SUPPORT---2B005631

https://www.af1racing.com/2B005628-MACHINED-RH-PASSENGER-SUPPORT---2B005628

[ridingron]

This is how it ended up with the panniers on.


There is now a massive space between the inside of the left case and the wheel.
I saw a post where some bloke has fitted a tool case in there.
That engine needs to be silver.
Hmmmm.....

I was thinking of doing something similar with my exhaust and muffler. Also, cut, weld, and modify the left luggage mounting rack to be similar to the right one. Modify the left box to fill in the muffler space. Or mount a right box on the new mount. The lock would face forward but I'm not OCD.

[ridingron]

Huzo-You seem to be looking to remove a lot of black parts. Have you considered painting the front fender red?

[Huzo]

Huzo-You seem to be looking to remove a lot of black parts. Have you considered painting the front fender red?

I did for a while, but thought it might look….”cheap”.
I have not given up the idea of removing the engine, stripping the paint and doing it in silver, like the air cooled GS BMW’s.
Also, I would have to get EXACTLY the same red or it would be an unmitigated disaster.
The black on the front is a somewhat subtle extension of the black over the tank and the rear subframe/fender….(I think).

[Huzo]

Well, if you’ve made it this far, you’ll see that the V85 has had a face lift, that’s all well and good, but I think I need to address the elephant in the room.
I thought I could live with the black engine, but having done the facelift, I think it’s time for some make up…
I think I’m going to remove the engine and strip the black off it, it still looks like I put the engine from someone else’s V85 into my bike.
However the jury is out as to whether I should leave the aluminium raw, or paint it.
Now on that topic, does anyone know what the paint is that they use on the boxer BMW’s, such as the R1100S and such.
It has a nice silver sheen to it, without looking cheap.

[Caffeineo]

I have seen some black engine bikes where they have removed the paint off the ends of the cooling fins. Gives the engine some silver stripes. Cheap and easy to do. May scratch the silver engine itch. Plus you can always do the whole engine if you do not like it.

[Vagrant]

Personally, that's what I would do. First at last.

[Huzo]

That’s how they are as standard, it’s already done.

[Caffeineo]

That’s how they are as standard, it’s already done.

I just looked at mine and you are right. I had not noticed as it is........a bit dirty. LOL

[Huzo]

I just looked at mine and you are right. I had not noticed as it is........a bit dirty. LOL

At least you’re using it mate…

[Moparnut72]

A spotless bike is an unhappy bike. Mine tell me that all the time. 
kk

[Bulldog9]

Well, if you’ve made it this far, you’ll see that the V85 has had a face lift, that’s all well and good, but I think I need to address the elephant in the room.
I thought I could live with the black engine, but having done the facelift, I think it’s time for some make up…
I think I’m going to remove the engine and strip the black off it, it still looks like I put the engine from someone else’s V85 into my bike.
However the jury is out as to whether I should leave the aluminium raw, or paint it.
Now on that topic, does anyone know what the paint is that they use on the boxer BMW’s, such as the R1100S and such.
It has a nice silver sheen to it, without looking cheap.

I'm in the 'any color but silver' club so no help from me, other than if you strip it all, you need to coat/cover it with the PJ1 clear engine case paint. I stripped and polished the alt and timing covers on my XS11 polished them up, and top coated with the PJ1. They have stood up well over the years.

All you need to do to finish your transformation is dump the god aweful dual headights for a single unit