How about ...... different small blocks?

[ohiorider]

A family of V85 small block CARC bikes?  A lighter weight Norge, lighter weight 1200 Sport, maybe even a Griso 850?  Call me crazy, but I think those bikes were some of the best looking machines Guzzi built.  Smaller and lighter versions might be a good route to follow ??  Of course, along with the V7III bikes.

I don't know, but would the V85 engine have the heft and performance for these bikes?

Bob

[Kev m]

You had me at "different small blocks". 

[skippy]

I doubt we will see a CARC version of the V85 platform but I would be stunned if we didn't see a dedicated road bike based on the motor. It is a fantastic mill that provides really good power over a large rev range.
A dedicated road bike could loose all of the heavy trellis frame work that the current bike has and thus shed a lot of weight in the process. Couple that with shorter suspension with less travel and some tubeless wheels we would see a road bike down in the 450# range. That is a good recipe for a successful street bike.

Skippy

[GeorgiaGuzzi]

So I guess this is a good thread to ask on. As a newer Guzzi owner I’ve done research into the difference between big and small blocks. It seems to me that there is not much difference other than bore size. The stroke in big blocks increases, but not as much as bore. In my mind I’m think about the difference between a 350 Chevy and a 454 Chevy. You just look at me and it’s like, “that’s a big block!” whereas the difference in Guzzi’s is much more subtle. So I am just curious what if any structural differences there are. Thanks 😊

[Bisbonian]

So I guess this is a good thread to ask on. As a newer Guzzi owner I’ve done research into the difference between big and small blocks. It seems to me that there is not much difference other than bore size. The stroke in big blocks increases, but not as much as bore. In my mind I’m think about the difference between a 350 Chevy and a 454 Chevy. You just look at me and it’s like, “that’s a big block!” whereas the difference in Guzzi’s is much more subtle. So I am just curious what if any structural differences there are. Thanks 😊

They are absolutely different, and you can tell just by looking. Much like small vs big block chevys.

[ohiorider]

In Europe, but not brought to the US, some of the CARC bikes were powered by a smaller displacement 'big block.'  Here's a Norge example of such a bike.  I think I recall reading where some police departments in European cities used the 850 vs the 1200.  In my original post, I was suggesting using the small block engine and power train that powers the V85 in a family of smaller, lighter CARC bikes.

850 Norge Bore an Stroke:
3.62" x 2.59"

1200 Norge Bore and Stroke:
3.71" x 3.20"

https://www.autoevolution.com/moto/moto-guzzi-norge-850-2006.html#aeng_moto-guzzi-norge-850-2006-850

Bob