Author Topic: The Relative Importance of Certain National Markets vs. Motorcycle Mfr Economics  (Read 1011 times)

Offline Cdn850T5NT

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I ran across this German advertisement from Gregory Bender's site - and on examination found some interesting (to-me) details. The date of this ad would have been late 1984 or early 1985 at the earliest.... and possibly 1986 or later. I say this 'cuz I have looked closely at the T5 in the ad and note that:
i) it has a later production steel (not alloy) passenger grab bar;
ii) a post 1984 production polycarbonate flyscreen;
iii) taller (and braced) steering head frame;
iv) early production brake rotors;
v) early production Sebac rear shocks; and
vi) an early production 16" (i.e. not 18") rear wheel.
This bike is for the German market... a very important one for Guzzi.

It did NOT get the best features and released items -  compared to the Italian market... and often... compared to the American market. This German mkt bike is a bit of a Parts Bin special. Lotsa excess-stock componentry used-up in producing it.

In general, and for many consumer things, America (and sometimes to a bit lesser degree - Canada) - we 'kinda are a premium mkt. We're pretty lucky that way.

Minutiae - I know. But I'm a kind'o observant individual.



« Last Edit: July 30, 2020, 11:04:33 AM by Cdn850T5NT »
1985 Eurospec 850 T5 NT (Nuovo Tipo - New Type... i.e. Series III)

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It seems (maybe correctly) that they think all we want is their bigger bikes. The Europeans got a slew of 350s, baby Grisos, Bellagios, etc., and they may have missed a market here for their police models in different sizes.

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I bet they would have sold a shit load of Bellagios and 8 valve 1200 sports in the North American market.  DonG
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I bet they would have sold a shit load of Bellagios and 8 valve 1200 sports in the North American market.  DonG

probably still would
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Guess that’s the problem “shit load” is not enough to work thru....

Mark

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We here in the USA during the height of the the Brit bike of the 60's- 70's we had east & west coast different scramblers. Plus alot of different models from Euro makers. The OEM's built what our different markets required. sell sell sell!!!
Any of you geezers remember Joe Berliner's V-4 Apollo Ducati attempt to build a HD style cruz'r in the early 60's??
« Last Edit: July 31, 2020, 08:41:37 AM by bodine99 »

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No they wouldn’t have.  Guzzi has never sold a shit load of any big block in NA.  Some do well I guess by Guzzi standards, the 98 ev seems to be one, as there seem to be a relative many about.  However, I do recall the head guy at Moto America, Guzzi then import arm,  brought over a boat load of extra EVs because it won the Cycleworld shoot out.  He was disappointed  because although they moved well, they didn’t sell like a shit load!

What many of us on this form want, or like to say we want are not what the greater public at large wants.

The bikes that have sold the most this century have all small blocks.

Why didn’t the 8v Griso sell a shit load?
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