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Two V7 III Stone questions
« on: July 31, 2020, 07:00:50 AM »
1. How hard is it to find a used one in green? Alternatively, how hard/expensive is it to find a green tank to put on one of another color?

2. Are the front fenders interchangeable between generations? Like, could I buy the longer fender from a II and put it on a III without modification?
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Re: Two V7 III Stone questions
« Reply #1 on: July 31, 2020, 07:18:51 AM »
I'm not able to answer your questions directly, but if you go the the Italian Guzzi site, you can open up the accessory catalog and see some options.

Here is the link to the Italian site. https://www.motoguzzi.com/it_IT/

Looks like they have updated the site. You may need to poke around to seek out what you want, but I did find accessories.

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Re: Two V7 III Stone questions
« Reply #2 on: July 31, 2020, 07:22:34 AM »
1. How hard is it to find a used one in green? Alternatively, how hard/expensive is it to find a green tank to put on one of another color?

2. Are the front fenders interchangeable between generations? Like, could I buy the longer fender from a II and put it on a III without modification?

Not sure on the 2nd one, but I bought my first Guzzi a V7ii stone, used. It had a custom orange color for the tank. The seller did it to match his car, told me it cost about $500 to have it done. 

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Re: Two V7 III Stone questions
« Reply #3 on: July 31, 2020, 09:24:40 AM »
agdrache -- here's solution 1b: https://cadrecycle.com/product/moto-guzzi-v7-kit-olive-green/

As they say in BMW land, Bring More Wallet.

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Re: Two V7 III Stone questions
« Reply #4 on: July 31, 2020, 09:34:42 AM »
The V7 II and III fenders are interchangeable. I'm running a smaller II racer fender on my III Stone. I'm tempted to go for the Tenni Green cafe kit sold by Guzzi but at $2600 it's ridiculously expensive, even when on sale https://cadrecycle.com/product/v7-iii-record-fairing-kit-green/
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Re: Two V7 III Stone questions
« Reply #5 on: July 31, 2020, 10:33:23 AM »
agdrache -- here's solution 1b: https://cadrecycle.com/product/moto-guzzi-v7-kit-olive-green/

As they say in BMW land, Bring More Wallet.

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and he can recoup some of that money by selling his stock parts. 
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Re: Two V7 III Stone questions
« Reply #6 on: July 31, 2020, 10:35:50 AM »
1. How hard is it to find a used one in green? Alternatively, how hard/expensive is it to find a green tank to put on one of another color?

2. Are the front fenders interchangeable between generations? Like, could I buy the longer fender from a II and put it on a III without modification?

1.  It is a matte finish.  You could rattle can a black one and add some matte clearcoat for $50.

2.  Don't know, but anything is possible if the mount points are a little different, some custom make brackets could solve your problem. 
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Re: Two V7 III Stone questions
« Reply #7 on: July 31, 2020, 10:55:09 AM »
The dealership in Maryland has brand new Stone's listed for $5999, but in grey.   Not sure what type of $$$$$ you are thinking of putting into this, but I'd say buy a new Stone and have the tank painted. 

Just for grins I looked up a stock green Stone tank ... $3,112.74!!!!  For a gas tank!!!!  The "blank" unpainted one is $1587.12

Do you really like the matte green on the Moto Guzzi Stones?  With a paint job, you get to specify the exact green and finish you like. 

I haven't noticed the fender differences ... the ii fenders are longer than the iii?  Looking at some pics, seems the rear is about the same but looks like the ii front fender does cover more of the front wheel than the iii. 
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Re: Two V7 III Stone questions
« Reply #8 on: July 31, 2020, 02:22:26 PM »
The dealership in Maryland has brand new Stone's listed for $5999, but in grey.   Not sure what type of $$$$$ you are thinking of putting into this, but I'd say buy a new Stone and have the tank painted. 

Just for grins I looked up a stock green Stone tank ... $3,112.74!!!!  For a gas tank!!!!  The "blank" unpainted one is $1587.12


Are you sure you didn't accidentally look up the whole green bodywork kit?!?
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Re: Two V7 III Stone questions
« Reply #10 on: July 31, 2020, 04:12:11 PM »
Givi tail rack and Kenda tires.  Only gas tank is Green  $6,500 for 5K miles is kinda high.

Probably better to buy something close, put Cadre's complete bodywork that includes the fuel tank, mudguards and side panels painted in Alce green, the historic Moto Guzzi model.  It would be a classic look.

Then as suggested above, sell the parts from the one you bought.

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Re: Two V7 III Stone questions
« Reply #11 on: July 31, 2020, 04:30:42 PM »
agdrache -- your best option might be buying a 2019 Stone from Cadre, have them install the Alce green bodywork, and see if they give you any credit (eg, labor, shipping) for the old bodywork.  As an RE guy, I'm looking forward to seeing your final result.

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Re: Two V7 III Stone questions
« Reply #12 on: July 31, 2020, 04:35:27 PM »
I'd be tempted to look around for a secondhand tank, any colour, you should eventually be able to get one for some $200 - 400, and have it, and the the side covers vinyl-wrapped in the colour of your choice. Note than in the past, new bare metal tanks have been available from Guzzi for $500 - 600. It's seems like there's currently a blip in the pricing.
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Re: Two V7 III Stone questions
« Reply #13 on: July 31, 2020, 07:39:14 PM »
Thanks for the suggestions, I don't know why I didn't think about the possibility of just getting a tank painted.

I've seen pretty much everything that's currently on Cycle Trader, the question regarding the difficulty of finding a green bike has more to do with the timing - I'm still figuring out how to afford such a purchase. I've just gotten off the phone with Progressive, going through various quote options, and I was surprised to find out that the V7 is apparently a lot more expensive to insure than another bike I've been looking at, the Royal Enfield Interceptor 650....although the Guzzi's shaft drive seems like a potentially better option for a year-round primary vehicle. I'd have figured they'd be pretty similar in terms of insurance, since they're pretty similar in terms of power, despite the 100cc-ish difference in displacement.
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Re: Two V7 III Stone questions
« Reply #14 on: July 31, 2020, 07:45:27 PM »
As an RE guy, I'm looking forward to seeing your final result.

Mostly I just like the matte olive green tank better than most of the other Stone color schemes, and since I ride year-round and in most weather, my experience with bicycles has shown that the longer the front fender, the more effective it is at keeping the bike clean - so I'd want the longer fender and then I'd also add one of those Extenda Fenda things onto it to get even more coverage
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Re: Two V7 III Stone questions
« Reply #15 on: August 01, 2020, 08:13:08 AM »
Thanks for the suggestions, I don't know why I didn't think about the possibility of just getting a tank painted.

I've seen pretty much everything that's currently on Cycle Trader, the question regarding the difficulty of finding a green bike has more to do with the timing - I'm still figuring out how to afford such a purchase. I've just gotten off the phone with Progressive, going through various quote options, and I was surprised to find out that the V7 is apparently a lot more expensive to insure than another bike I've been looking at, the Royal Enfield Interceptor 650....although the Guzzi's shaft drive seems like a potentially better option for a year-round primary vehicle. I'd have figured they'd be pretty similar in terms of insurance, since they're pretty similar in terms of power, despite the 100cc-ish difference in displacement.

For the Insurance part, check around with other companies. I've my home and auto through Progressive, but even with the account discount,  their quote on my Guzzi was ridiciously high.  Not sure if it is an issue with their rating, or if they just really dislike Guzzi's.  Anyway, I found same coverage for less than half the price elsewhere.

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Re: Two V7 III Stone questions
« Reply #16 on: August 01, 2020, 04:58:22 PM »
Part of it definitely had to do with my coverage selections. My current bike is a Suzuki TU250X, and at my old apartment it was super cheap to insure, $260ish for the year with pretty thorough coverage. I moved a couple miles and my insurance more than doubled. I've been getting quotes based on the same coverage selections I have currently, so there are definitely ways to bring it down - when I have a chance, I'm gonna go through and see how much of that really feels necessary.

In any case, it looks like I'm gonna have to wait a bit longer before I can buy anything, because of a lack of sufficient credit history at the moment, which is taking longer than I want for it to change
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Re: Two V7 III Stone questions
« Reply #17 on: August 01, 2020, 05:18:14 PM »
agdrache -- you ain't the first member whose planning got ahead of their pocketbook. :laugh: And if you keep looking at old school MGs and REs that's gonna keep happening. :laugh: :laugh:  But you have great taste.

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Re: Two V7 III Stone questions
« Reply #18 on: August 01, 2020, 10:24:30 PM »
agdrache -- you ain't the first member whose planning got ahead of their pocketbook. :laugh: And if you keep looking at old school MGs and REs that's gonna keep happening. :laugh: :laugh:  But you have great taste.

Based on my history with other passion items, it's a good thing I can't afford or store more than one or maaaaaybe two at a time  :laugh:






.....I might be playing with the idea of picking up a cheap older bike for some of those situations where more displacement would be useful, until I can afford what I actually want
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Re: Two V7 III Stone questions
« Reply #19 on: August 02, 2020, 11:09:02 PM »
I thought everyone knew green motorcycles were extremely unlucky.   

And if a feller were to go out of his way to paint one green??  Why there’s no telling how bad a disaster he’d be inviting.   
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Re: Two V7 III Stone questions
« Reply #20 on: August 03, 2020, 01:07:57 PM »
The V7 II and III fenders are interchangeable. I'm running a smaller II racer fender on my III Stone. I'm tempted to go for the Tenni Green cafe kit sold by Guzzi but at $2600 it's ridiculously expensive, even when on sale https://cadrecycle.com/product/v7-iii-record-fairing-kit-green/

That kit is gorgeous.......
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Re: Two V7 III Stone questions
« Reply #21 on: August 03, 2020, 01:30:59 PM »
I agree there is just "something" about a green bike.
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Re: Two V7 III Stone questions
« Reply #22 on: August 03, 2020, 02:26:36 PM »
I thought everyone knew green motorcycles were extremely unlucky.   

And if a feller were to go out of his way to paint one green??  Why there’s no telling how bad a disaster he’d be inviting.

That was before Kawasaki won races with it.
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Re: Two V7 III Stone questions
« Reply #23 on: August 03, 2020, 03:35:03 PM »
I'd be tempted to look around for a secondhand tank, any colour, you should eventually be able to get one for some $200 - 400, and have it, and the the side covers vinyl-wrapped in the colour of your choice. Note than in the past, new bare metal tanks have been available from Guzzi for $500 - 600. It's seems like there's currently a blip in the pricing.

I suspect some devious bastard bean counter decided this is the way to total any bike with minor damage so the customer buys a new one.
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