Author Topic: "Spendy" vintage Ducati... (Read 6017 times)

lucky phil · « **Reply #30 on:** November 03, 2020, 05:52:19 PM »

Quote from: Tusayan on November 03, 2020, 05:00:47 PM

The Carrillo kit itself is €849.14 before tax. Pistons are $639 USD for two.

Yep so you're up to $1630usd for parts plus shipping and you yourself are going to press the crank apart fit the dummy pin balance it and press it back together again in a 30 ton press and align it yourself? Have you experience in this? So in effect your new big end isn't really 849 euros because its the one thing you will need to get done professionally.
Even if you do it yourself and we call the pistons and big end kit $1700usd or so, plus shipping, you haven't even started on the rest of the engine. last time I bought a set of RHP angular contact mains they were $350au a matched pair, 30 years ago.
If you sleep better at night thinking you can rebuild your Bevel engine for $2500 in parts in 2020 and beyond fine, but I can tell you now you cant, not even close to an as new standard engine.

Ciao

Tusayan · « **Reply #31 on:** November 03, 2020, 05:58:16 PM »

Yes, I did that crankshaft disassembly/reasssembly/alignment myself on my Darmah engine overhaul. It had to be done twice to rebalance the crankshaft for different rods and pistons. Alignment is done with V-blocks and is actually not all that difficult.

$2500 is a fair number for parts assuming its an overhaul, not replacing every wearing part.

lucky phil · « **Reply #32 on:** November 03, 2020, 06:09:52 PM »

Quote from: Tusayan on November 03, 2020, 05:58:16 PM

Yes, I did that crankshaft disassembly/reasssembly/alignment myself on my Darmah engine overhaul. It had to be done twice to rebalance the crankshaft for different rods and pistons. Alignment is done with V-blocks and is actually not all that difficult.

$2500 is a fair number for parts assuming it an overhaul, not replacing every wearing part.

Well if you can rebuild a bevel engine for that money in parts you have a lucrative business opportunity you should take advantage of. Even with your labour costs added you'll be on a winner.

Ciao

Tusayan · « **Reply #33 on:** November 03, 2020, 07:29:08 PM »

If I did one engine per week my direct labor cost per engine before overhead and benefits would be close to double the parts cost. I'm not sure I'm the guy anybody would want to do this job

JJ · « **Reply #34 on:** November 04, 2020, 05:10:46 PM »

Now at $16,000...with 2 days still to GO!!

stubbie · « **Reply #35 on:** November 04, 2020, 08:41:57 PM »

That's cheap. Seen them at $24k

Tusayan · « **Reply #36 on:** November 04, 2020, 09:38:52 PM »

$24K or maybe a little less is where a knowledgeable seller would set reserve on an immaculate 750GT. BaT does not seem to attract buyers at that level but it’s interesting that they keep trying and presumably accepting reasonable seller reserves, as one nice bevel Ducati after another fails to sell on BaT. After a while you’d think sellers would give up on the site - it just hasn’t attracted buyers for these bikes unless they’re a bit rough and sold at the price for a rough one.

sdcr · « **Reply #37 on:** November 06, 2020, 01:07:56 PM »

Over $22,000 with a few minutes to go...

JJ · « **Reply #38 on:** November 06, 2020, 01:46:45 PM »

All I can say is...."WOW!!"

Tusayan · « **Reply #39 on:** November 06, 2020, 03:01:27 PM »

I think that’s three bevel Ducatis in a row that didn’t meet reserve on BaT. This one bid to market value IMO and the seller should have sold it for that bid, the others not so much.

jas67 · « **Reply #40 on:** November 06, 2020, 06:41:50 PM »

Quote from: JJ on November 06, 2020, 01:46:45 PM

All I can say is...."WOW!!"

Yeah, definitely wow.

Canuck750 · « **Reply #41 on:** November 06, 2020, 07:08:34 PM »

Sold at Mecum for $28,700 - LOT T327 - 2019

https://www.mecum.com/auctions/las-vegas-motorcycle-2019/lots/motorcycles/01/24/page/11/

I saw that bike in person, it looked very nice but no idea on the running condition.

Prices seem to be down a bit so I think it should have sold for the high bid received on BAT

tetarabra · « **Reply #42 on:** November 07, 2020, 02:29:46 PM »

Some nice pictures and prices

https://www.ducaticlassics.com/motorcycles-sale

geodoc · « **Reply #43 on:** November 08, 2020, 02:23:41 PM »

Quote from: LesP on November 07, 2020, 06:53:59 PM

The US$46000 750GT looks to have stock OEM valve seats.
My personal experience of that is not so great on unleaded fuel but being a European bike, maybe their fuel is fine for doing actual mileage.

Perhaps beryllium copper? Similar appearance to old style bronze alloy ones. Beryllium copper was used for the exh. seat replacements in my GT. Intakes were high nickel content bronze (Guy Martin, Montreal).

Beryllium copper:

http://forum.bevelheaven.com/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=4543&sid=8c02a993ec52036a0340c0aee1c4acb9

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geodoc · « **Reply #44 on:** November 09, 2020, 11:48:24 PM »

DesmoDog · « **Reply #45 on:** November 10, 2020, 08:12:39 PM »

I rebuilt a 750GT about ten years ago and had about $5k into the engine alone. Completely rebuilt, Syd's did the crank and fit the new (Sport) pistons but I did pretty much everything else.

I bought the bike right before prices on them skyrocketed. Got lucky on that one. I sold the bike when I realized I spent more time thinking about what I could do with the money if I sold it than I how much fun it was to ride. I never intended to restore it, I had plans to make it a "rider" the entire time. They weren't such a big deal when I was rebuilding it...

Before pics

And during/after

JJ · « **Reply #46 on:** November 11, 2020, 09:34:57 AM »

Nice job! Love that Mustang in the garage also! (We have a '67 coupe)

Dilliw · « **Reply #47 on:** November 11, 2020, 11:03:26 AM »

My brother has one that has been in restoration for about 4 years now. They guy working on it fired it up about a month in but sourcing the cosmetic stuff has been a pain. I think my brother is going to go get it and finish it as he can. Eventually I will abscond with it so I want him to do it right!

He also has two wide frame singles that would be great projects. I don't have the time or energy but if someone knows a good restorer I have the key to his shop. It would be a 350 desmo build.

JJ · « **Reply #48 on:** November 16, 2020, 03:41:48 PM »

Well, many said this would go over $100K...It appears it only made it to $54,000 today.

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