Author Topic: When will the V85 TT get Cast Wheels?? (Read 10375 times)

SLDMRossi · « **on:** January 06, 2021, 11:40:58 AM »

http://www.motorcycledaily.com/2020/12/bmw-executive-indicates-sport-tourers-are-being-replaced-by-adventure-bikes-with-17-front-wheels/

Steven Rossi

twowheeladdict · « **Reply #1 on:** January 06, 2021, 01:04:41 PM »

There have been “street adventure” bikes for over a decade. This is not news.

pete mcgee · « **Reply #2 on:** January 06, 2021, 03:04:26 PM »

That will depend on the Guzzi marketing dept and whether they think its worth the effort.
Triumph has gone this route with the Tiger, the off road focused models get spoked wheels with a larger diameter front wheel, the more on road focused get cast with generally a 19 inch front.
Not everyone who rides an "adventure" bike has the requirement, skill or want to take 200kg plus motorcycles off road, most however do want something comfortable with good fuel range and an "all road" capability.
There is a definate nitch in the market for such a bike.
Now the question is has Guzzi been paying attention.

Cheers

SLDMRossi · « **Reply #3 on:** January 06, 2021, 03:28:03 PM »

Who said it was news? It was a question...when?

On the other hand, thank you Pete for adding some value to the discussion,

SR

steven c · « **Reply #4 on:** January 06, 2021, 07:29:09 PM »

I have been riding one for years. 06 Buell XB12x Ulysses.

twowheeladdict · « **Reply #5 on:** January 06, 2021, 08:13:53 PM »

Quote from: SLDMRossi on January 06, 2021, 03:28:03 PM

Who said it was news?

Motorcycle Daily, and BMW.

There are aftermarket wheel makers. You don't have to wait until MG makes them.

timonbik · « **Reply #6 on:** January 07, 2021, 08:31:01 AM »

I would have thought that Guzzi would have equipped the Travel model with cast wheels. Had they done so, there probably be one parked in my garage now.

kingoffleece · « **Reply #7 on:** January 07, 2021, 08:52:24 AM »

I'm also of that opinion. I'll never get another new(ish) motorcycle with tubes. Just not gonna.............. ......

twowheeladdict · « **Reply #8 on:** January 07, 2021, 09:13:32 AM »

Quote from: kingoffleece on January 07, 2021, 08:52:24 AM

I'm also of that opinion. I'll never get another new(ish) motorcycle with tubes. Just not gonna.............. ......

I am not a fan of tubes in high speed motorcycles. This is probably what has kept me from buying the V85TT, but I don't want cast wheels on it either. They should have put tubeless spoked rims even if it raised the price of the bike $500.

I've had no issues or flats with tubes on my Himalayan or Van Van.

I always put a new tube when changing tires.

I'm told the Van Van can limp home with no air in the tires and good luck breaking the bead to change out a tube.

In over 300,000 miles I have only had to do a roadside repair once (tubeless).

I have discovered a nail in the rear tire during pre-ride inspections at home twice (tubeless).

I had my wife come get me once because I was only 30 miles away and the tube was shredded, and got a tow 60 miles to home once because I couldn't find the puncture in the pouring rain at the end of a 4000 mile ride and just wanted to get home (tubeless).

So, 5 flats in over 300,000 miles. Not too bad I guess.

Ncdan · « **Reply #9 on:** January 07, 2021, 09:26:47 AM »

I don’t have one of these bikes but what about doing the process of converting a tube type wheel to tubeless?
From what I understand it can be accomplished rather easily and effectively.

Kev m · « **Reply #10 on:** January 07, 2021, 09:41:16 AM »

Quote from: Ncdan on January 07, 2021, 09:26:47 AM

I don’t have one of these bikes but what about doing the process of converting a tube spike wheel to tubeless?
From what I understand it can be accompanied rather easily and effectively.

I'm with the King of the Fleecing (

)

Even if you seal em, you still have to check spoke tightness and potentially might need to true them eventually, you still might want to clean them (PIA).

Thing is I don't even prefer the look of the spokes.

So I would need a STRONG reason to settle for a bike that had one.

YMMV and all that, it's just a taste thing not a wrong or right thing.

Vagrant · « **Reply #11 on:** January 07, 2021, 09:48:13 AM »

30 days after I'm too old to ride anymore!

Roebling3 · « **Reply #12 on:** January 07, 2021, 09:58:36 AM »

I asked Jim Hamlin to swop out the wires for cast on my then new V7 IIIR. I made $200.00 and powder coated the cast wheels. I won't leave town on tubed tires,
I've had only one flat on a mc in 70 yrs. of riding motorcycles. I have a few bikes with wire wheels but doubt I would do an overnight ride on them. R3~

twowheeladdict · « **Reply #13 on:** January 07, 2021, 10:54:52 AM »

Quote from: Roebling3 on January 07, 2021, 09:58:36 AM

I asked Jim Hamlin to swop out the wires for cast on my then new V7 IIIR. I made $200.00 and powder coated the cast wheels. I won't leave town on tubed tires,
I've had only one flat on a mc in 70 yrs. of riding motorcycles. I have a few bikes with wire wheels but doubt I would do an overnight ride on them. R3~

One flat in 70 years, but won't do an overnight ride on tube tires.

Your town must employ the best street sweepers in the nation!

Vagrant · « **Reply #14 on:** January 07, 2021, 11:06:52 AM »

I had a flat on the brand new Michelins on the Tundra in November and a week later on the Samauri on new AT tires. tiny finishing nail. Screw spokes. my V7III and the V85 got fixed first tire change. As I recall I had something like 7 flats between the 4 and 2 wheeled vehicles with maybe a total of 50,000 miles. Unlucky? Maybe but there is crap all over our highways.

Motoark · « **Reply #15 on:** January 07, 2021, 11:43:02 AM »

Quote from: Vagrant on January 07, 2021, 11:06:52 AM

I had a flat on the brand new Michelins on the Tundra in November and a week later on the Samauri on new AT tires. tiny finishing nail. Screw spokes. my V7III and the V85 got fixed first tire change. As I recall I had something like 7 flats between the 4 and 2 wheeled vehicles with maybe a total of 50,000 miles. Unlucky? Maybe but there is crap all over our highways.

Unlucky? Without any doubt, I'd say so. In over 200K of two wheel riding I've only had one flat. I don't consider that overly luck. Including four wheelers is not really useful for comparison. In terms of contact area you're comparing Cutie's with cucumbers. As far as cast wheels go, I've never owned a bike with cast wheels

Mark

Matteo · « **Reply #16 on:** January 07, 2021, 11:49:24 AM »

Meanwhile they put tubeless spoked wheels on the new Aprilia Tuareg.

Roebling3 · « **Reply #17 on:** January 07, 2021, 05:03:49 PM »

Twowheeladdict, others?.
Please don't think I've not been 'tested'. Until 4 years ago I was averaging 30K+/year on motorcycles. B4 that there were a few bigger #/year. I also drove commercially cross country 5, 6 & 7 axle trucks. For a few years I did trade shows here - Mexico and in Europe. The burning question remains: Why is the flat always on the inside tire of a dual set? Keep safe, R3~

Dave_NWTrophy · « **Reply #18 on:** January 07, 2021, 07:33:45 PM »

Quote from: Roebling3 on January 07, 2021, 05:03:49 PM

The burning question remains: Why is the flat always on the inside tire of a dual set? Keep safe, R3~

Probably for the same reason more rear punctures on motorcycles than front. The front tire usually runs over the object first and stands it up, then it goes in the rear. The inside rear is more in line with the front than the outside. It could also be simply because it's harder to get to

.

Dave

tetarabra · « **Reply #19 on:** January 13, 2021, 07:48:58 AM »

New 85TT for 2021. Should have tubeless tyres.

https://www.inmoto.it/news/news/anteprime/2021/01/13-3815264/moto_guzzi_v85_tt_2021_motore_rivisto_e_pneumatici_tubless/

twowheeladdict · « **Reply #20 on:** January 13, 2021, 08:21:41 AM »

Quote from: tetarabra on January 13, 2021, 07:48:58 AM

New 85TT for 2021. Should have tubeless tyres.

https://www.inmoto.it/news/news/anteprime/2021/01/13-3815264/moto_guzzi_v85_tt_2021_motore_rivisto_e_pneumatici_tubless/

Oh man! This just got real!

I may hold out one more year because I want the Italian Flag colors with a red frame. Trying to decide which bike to part with in order to get the V85TT is going to be a difficult decision.

SLDMRossi · « **Reply #21 on:** January 13, 2021, 08:30:32 AM »

More...

https://www.rideapart.com/news/465952/2021-moto-guzzi-v85tt-update/

SR

jwinwi · « **Reply #22 on:** January 13, 2021, 08:36:34 AM »

Quote from: SLDMRossi on January 13, 2021, 08:30:32 AM

More...

https://www.rideapart.com/news/465952/2021-moto-guzzi-v85tt-update/

SR

YES! Close enough. Tubeless baby!

twowheeladdict · « **Reply #23 on:** January 13, 2021, 08:37:22 AM »

Quote from: SLDMRossi on January 13, 2021, 08:30:32 AM

More...

https://www.rideapart.com/news/465952/2021-moto-guzzi-v85tt-update/

SR

Makes me wonder if that means a reduction in overall HP and now the same as the new V7.

Huzo · « **Reply #24 on:** January 13, 2021, 10:45:40 AM »

Quote from: twowheeladdict on January 13, 2021, 08:21:41 AM

Oh man! This just got real!

I may hold out one more year because I want the Italian Flag colors with a red frame. Trying to decide which bike to part with in order to get the V85TT is going to be a difficult decision.

Kev m · « **Reply #25 on:** January 13, 2021, 10:55:52 AM »

Quote from: twowheeladdict on January 13, 2021, 08:37:22 AM

Makes me wonder if that means a reduction in overall HP and now the same as the new V7.

That's the first question that popped into my mind. But I doubt it because I still expect the new V7 to have the smaller throttle body bore MUIG unit.

twowheeladdict · « **Reply #26 on:** January 13, 2021, 12:26:21 PM »

Quote from: Huzo on January 13, 2021, 10:45:40 AM

Color only. Not the other mods that make the bike look strange.

Perazzimx14 · « **Reply #27 on:** January 13, 2021, 01:06:02 PM »

Hopefully if they offer cast wheels they also offer the choice of getting them in 17/17.

Perazzimx14 · « **Reply #28 on:** January 13, 2021, 01:12:14 PM »

Quote from: Dave_NWTrophy on January 07, 2021, 07:33:45 PM

Probably for the same reason more rear punctures on motorcycles than front. The front tire usually runs over the object first and stands it up, then it goes in the rear. The inside rear is more in line with the front than the outside. It could also be simply because it's harder to get to .

Dave

Why is the tire always only flat on the bottom?

bobrebos · « **Reply #29 on:** January 13, 2021, 01:37:03 PM »

Quote from: Perazzimx14 on January 13, 2021, 01:12:14 PM

Why is the tire always only flat on the bottom?

....Because the top has air in it!

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Author Topic: When will the V85 TT get Cast Wheels?? (Read 10375 times)

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