Author Topic: Few questions about a cali 1100i? (Read 14420 times)

Tkelly · « **Reply #120 on:** January 30, 2021, 04:21:19 PM »

On my 97 I would replace the tps like a set of points and no further problems.Buy a new one and set it right.I have one if you can’t get one locally.Send me your address if you want it.

John A · « **Reply #121 on:** January 30, 2021, 08:26:36 PM »

Quote from: lad on January 30, 2021, 11:45:12 AM

Small update to this:

I soaked the TPS in isopropyl for a few days, I figured if excess fuel could trickle down and gunk it up then there's no need to drill it.

When I put it back on I managed to get it set to .400mv, and when back probed it still went up to a 4.8 peak.

Maybe that'll help, maybe not. I'm waiting on the new plug caps to arrive, so I'll give it a spin next week and see.

Cheers

That’s right in the ballpark!

Tom · « **Reply #122 on:** January 30, 2021, 08:41:58 PM »

Degrease the bike.

lad · « **Reply #123 on:** January 31, 2021, 02:11:49 AM »

Quote from: Tom on January 30, 2021, 08:41:58 PM

Degrease the bike.

how do you mean ? It's not very greasy. Is this about the injector manifold?

lad · « **Reply #124 on:** January 31, 2021, 02:13:09 AM »

Quote from: Tkelly on January 30, 2021, 04:21:19 PM

On my 97 I would replace the tps like a set of points and no further problems.Buy a new one and set it right.I have one if you can’t get one locally.Send me your address if you want it.

I might do that if this doesn't yield any results, but there's no point replacing it if there's no need either. Thanks for the offer, I can pick up one easy enough on eBay, as I might revert to the PF09 when next I do replace it.

lad · « **Reply #125 on:** March 06, 2021, 03:39:13 AM »

Update, got a fuel filter, a Mahle, managed to replace it and that condensation pipe that was burst while I was at it, VERY tight in there now, the pipe wall was a little thicker than the stock.

I'm going to see if this makes a difference, next port-of-call is to clean the sensors, and failing that, the TPS

lad · « **Reply #126 on:** March 11, 2021, 10:26:31 AM »

eh....

Have i been duped? Why is the PF09 about 12 times bigger than the PFC3?

That's apparently the one for my frame number, but evidently they're not interchangeable? The thick plottens.

Pain in the ass. Guess i'm drilling and hoping

Tom · « **Reply #127 on:** March 11, 2021, 02:40:04 PM »

Older model.

Tkelly · « **Reply #128 on:** March 11, 2021, 02:53:12 PM »

The one in the photo looks nothing like the ones I got from Harley,made by Magni Marelli.My bike was a 97California.I will send it to you when I get home in April if you pay shipping.

lad · « **Reply #129 on:** March 11, 2021, 03:34:39 PM »

Quote from: Tkelly on March 11, 2021, 02:53:12 PM

The one in the photo looks nothing like the ones I got from Harley,made by Magni Marelli.My bike was a 97California.I will send it to you when I get home in April if you pay shipping.

happy to pay, is it the pf3c one? It's just confusing, the injector housing must be huge on the older models? even though technically mine is an older model, or someone just stuck that frame number badge onto it, or the parts list manual is for an entirely different bike...

Tom H · « **Reply #130 on:** March 11, 2021, 08:29:48 PM »

I'm not sure which thread to post this to. Per MG Cycle the PF3c fit's all FI models of the California series '98-'05. Here is a link to the page:
https://www.mgcycle.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=30&products_id=5333

I'm thinking the "correct" 9 with the direction the wires come out may have been updated to a 3 for the wires. Without being an electrical engineer and the test equipment to verify, I'm guessing the 9 and 3 have the same voltage ramp. HD has a TPS that fits But... from what I have read the voltage ramp is different. They are close enough to work, but IIRR they give a touch more fuel in the high end.

Tom

Tom H · « **Reply #131 on:** March 11, 2021, 09:00:59 PM »

So you wanna know about tuning up the bike, here is what I go with:
https://archive.guzzitech.com/EVTuneup-Jeff_B.html

Another version with pictures:
https://bradthebikeboy.blogspot.com/2012/10/throttle-position-sensor-setting_21.html

Adjusting a TPS. I have read there are two ways. One is to mess with the idle screw on the LH TB and adjust the TPS to 150MV with the screw fully backed out. The other just says to adjust the idle screw to get 500-525MV.

If it were me and I'm changing the TPS. I would install the new TPS, Per The Instructions, back the idle screw out and adjust the TPS to get 150MV. Then I would adjust the idle screw to get the 500-525MV. Then follow the instructions to balance the TB's.

Tom

flower_king001 · « **Reply #132 on:** March 12, 2021, 04:38:27 AM »

Quote from: Tom H on March 11, 2021, 08:29:48 PM

I'm not sure which thread to post this to. Per MG Cycle the PF3c fit's all FI models of the California series '98-'05. Here is a link to the page:
https://www.mgcycle.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=30&products_id=5333

I'm thinking the "correct" 9 with the direction the wires come out may have been updated to a 3 for the wires. Without being an electrical engineer and the test equipment to verify, I'm guessing the 9 and 3 have the same voltage ramp. HD has a TPS that fits But... from what I have read the voltage ramp is different. They are close enough to work, but IIRR they give a touch more fuel in the high end.

Tom

Tom,

You are correct that the unit MG Cycle is selling fits a 1998 - 2005 Cali models but the bike in question here is not a 1998 - 2005 but an older bike that uses a different TPS

JoeB · « **Reply #133 on:** March 12, 2021, 06:09:06 AM »

Quote from: Tom H on March 11, 2021, 09:00:59 PM

Adjusting a TPS. I have read there are two ways. One is to mess with the isle screw on the LH TB and adjust the TPS to 150MV with the screw fully backed out. The other just says to adjust the idle screw to get 500-525MV.

If it were me and I'm changing the TPS. I would install the new TPS, Per The Instructions, back the idle screw out and adjust the TPS to get 150MV. Then I would adjust the idle screw to get the 500-525MV. Then follow the instructions to balance the TB's.

That 500 mv setting was for the smaller 1.5 ecu bikes.
For the larger P8 computer, at least in 1998, it was recommended to set at 378 +-15 mv after setting 150mv baseline.
Have seen several different ways to set up over the years. Most seemed to work well.
That fellow on guzzitech also did a write up on the harley tps for those interested: https://archive.guzzitech.com/HD-TPS-Jeff_B.html
I used the harley tps once on my 98ev. Noticed no perceivable difference riding. However I'm not a racer just a sedate tourer.
Prices on the Pf3c came down and went back to it.

Tom H · « **Reply #134 on:** March 12, 2021, 10:32:35 AM »

JoeB,

The voltage was something I was a bit confused about between the P8 and 15M. Thanks for clearing that up for me.

I am still wondering what the difference between the 9 and 3 TPS is other then the wire location? Also why you have to run a 9 with a P8?

Tom

lad · « **Reply #135 on:** March 12, 2021, 01:18:24 PM »

Quote from: Tom H on March 12, 2021, 10:32:35 AM

I am still wondering what the difference between the 9 and 3 TPS is other then the wire location? Also why you have to run a 9 with a P8?

Tom

I'm running an 8 with a 3...

flower_king001 · « **Reply #136 on:** March 12, 2021, 05:05:11 PM »

Good luck....I'm out of trying to help with this!

Tom H · « **Reply #137 on:** March 12, 2021, 07:24:53 PM »

I found the difference in the other thread.

Tom

lad · « **Reply #138 on:** March 13, 2021, 02:49:48 PM »

i’ll keep this going on a different thread as this was a multi-question, people of the future, here is the link

https://wildguzzi.com/forum/index.php?topic=109470.0

thanks for the help flower king

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Author Topic: Few questions about a cali 1100i? (Read 14420 times)