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Offline John Croucher

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Supermotard Quota
« on: February 20, 2021, 10:04:26 PM »
Has any one built a Super/hyper Motard Quota? 

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Re: Supermotard Quota
« Reply #1 on: February 20, 2021, 11:01:59 PM »
A Quotard? I think the quota is a bit heavy for that. They handle surprisingly well as is.
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Re: Supermotard Quota
« Reply #2 on: February 21, 2021, 04:42:27 AM »
The Quota may be heavy but dropping the front from a 21" to 17" will reduce the rotating mass (hopefully go tubeless). Reduce the gyroscopic effect  and put more weight on the front end for much quicker and planted steering.

I have know folks who have done this on GS series bikes and have been quite pleased with the result.

I say do it!
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Re: Supermotard Quota
« Reply #3 on: February 21, 2021, 07:41:54 AM »
Two shown here...http://www.motoschmitz.de/ go to Restoration and then archive 2.

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Re: Supermotard Quota
« Reply #4 on: February 21, 2021, 08:49:46 AM »
Not a quota but it’s a guzzi, 3rd bike down...
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Re: Supermotard Quota
« Reply #5 on: February 21, 2021, 10:17:45 AM »
Those Motoschmitz Quotards use a different front end.
IMO a supermoto is a dirtbike bike (350 lbs or there about) converted into a sportbike by adding 17" wheels and suspension tuning. Think a track day bike that can do some small jumps as well. I had a Ktm 640 supermoto and they are great fun.

What you would be building is a standard with adventure bike styling queues. ( I do not consider ducati hypermotards and the like supermotos)

Could be amazing, or the 17" wheel might quicken up the steering to much.
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Re: Supermotard Quota
« Reply #6 on: February 21, 2021, 10:30:53 AM »
Will not break the bank...


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Re: Supermotard Quota
« Reply #7 on: February 21, 2021, 12:21:00 PM »
Mine is more mellow than hyper.

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Re: Supermotard Quota
« Reply #8 on: February 21, 2021, 01:41:42 PM »
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Re: Supermotard Quota
« Reply #9 on: February 21, 2021, 02:58:38 PM »
Hey John  :cool:
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Re: Supermotard Quota
« Reply #10 on: February 21, 2021, 07:11:58 PM »
Amamet, good find. I like it.
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Re: Supermotard Quota
« Reply #11 on: July 19, 2023, 06:02:48 PM »
Now what?  I got a Quota.  Needs turn signals, a quick turn screw in side cover, nut for odometer reset button, fluid change battery, two tires and good cleaning.

Has replacement  of oem rims with Excel rims front, exhaust crossover and rear  Power Commander, rear lowered 1 inch, shortened side stand.  I think I will keep it as is.  The Seller took the luggage off to sell on ebay.  He has another one for $1,000.   He didn't tell he had two.  I would have bought them both.

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Re: Supermotard Quota
« Reply #12 on: July 19, 2023, 08:49:28 PM »
Have fun with it.  Get some video of lofting the front wheel and backing it into the corners.   :thumb:
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Re: Supermotard Quota
« Reply #13 on: July 20, 2023, 02:19:40 PM »
Now what?  I got a Quota.  Needs turn signals, a quick turn screw in side cover, nut for odometer reset button, fluid change battery, two tires and good cleaning.

Has replacement  of oem rims with Excel rims front, exhaust crossover and rear  Power Commander, rear lowered 1 inch, shortened side stand.  I think I will keep it as is.  The Seller took the luggage off to sell on ebay.  He has another one for $1,000.   He didn't tell he had two.  I would have bought them both.



After you get it up and running and before you sink money into it take it for a ride and see if you can tolerate the buffeting. Then proceed accordingly. I loved a lot about my Quota, comfortable, I love the 1100 motor and decent suspension. Anytime I hit any thing over 60 MPH I felt like I was at Sherwin William and my head was locked in the paint shaker. Anything over 70/75 and vision was blurred not from speed but violent buffeting along with wind noise that can only be described an ambulance. The 1st time I hit a stretch of highway and got the bike up on plane I hear what I thought was a loud siren. I got in the right lane slowed down and looked fore and aft and there was nothing. Sped up and the shrill noise reappeared.

I like a lot about my Quota but could not stand the buffeting and wind noise. Hope you do not have the same experience as it makes the bike intolerable.

If you are looking to motard a big bike might I suggest sourcing a Hexhead GS that already handles well then get a set of RT wheels that get you the ability to use 120/180 series sport tires and cuts down the weight and speeds up the steering. My GS with RT wheels is a a lot of fun.





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Re: Supermotard Quota
« Reply #14 on: July 21, 2023, 02:44:53 AM »
Ditch the Excel rims and get the Sun rims by Buchanen as thats what Guzzi approved under warranty on my Quota after the rims cracked front and rear at the nipples

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Re: Supermotard Quota
« Reply #15 on: July 21, 2023, 07:06:08 AM »
Ditch the Excel rims and get the Sun rims by Buchanen as thats what Guzzi approved under warranty on my Quota after the rims cracked front and rear at the nipples

Problem is unless you really love the bike the cost of new hoops will really offset the value of the bike. Wadda about the exhaust collector, if keeping it too should be addressed.

Again before i dumped money into it (money that will not increase the value) I'd ride it a while to make sure its a keeper or catch & release.
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Re: Supermotard Quota
« Reply #16 on: July 21, 2023, 03:50:59 PM »
Agree just pay close attention to them I believe the Akronts that were on the earlier bikes didn't do it. I loved my Quota for nearly 130k miles it was an excellent bike for mebut now the Griso is my new love

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Re: Supermotard Quota
« Reply #17 on: July 22, 2023, 12:08:32 AM »
i've owned two and they are great bikes. I never experienced any buffeting. maybe it was because I'm tall.
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Re: Supermotard Quota
« Reply #18 on: July 22, 2023, 06:50:10 AM »
It feels to me that a motard weighing over 350 pounds defeats the purpose. Same with hanging cylinders off the sides. Maybe a really light Ducati twin, but ideally a highly tuned single. Must be at least a bit irresponsible. How about a KTM 300 two stroke wrapped in sticky tires? My wife thinks I’m hyper and also a motard, sometimes at the same time.
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Re: Supermotard Quota
« Reply #19 on: July 22, 2023, 11:09:09 AM »
Problem is unless you really love the bike the cost of new hoops will really offset the value of the bike. Wadda about the exhaust collector, if keeping it too should be addressed.

Again before i dumped money into it (money that will not increase the value) I'd ride it a while to make sure its a keeper or catch & release.
Collector has been replaced and Super trap muffler installed. Dyna fuel controller installed and dyna tuned.

Bike had 1 inch shorter dogebone and shorter side stand.

Actually a big heavy bike, To big for hyper motard.

I have put over 1,000 miles on it in two days, in the back of my truck.

I am going to take the bike apart and put it back together.  It needs some tlc.

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Re: Supermotard Quota
« Reply #20 on: September 14, 2023, 08:02:21 PM »
The $1,000.00 Quota is not hyper, but lives.  200 hours, $1,500 in parts. Restorations are a labor of love. 




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Re: Supermotard Quota
« Reply #21 on: September 16, 2023, 09:37:34 AM »
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Re: Supermotard Quota
« Reply #22 on: September 17, 2023, 02:48:14 PM »
Very nice. Did you find a nut for the OD reset know yet? One from a fiat 1800 spider will fit.
https://www.midwest-bayless.com/Fiat-124SC-0_p-17459-4174090-plastic-retainer-nut-toggle-switch-trip-odometer-reset-knob-plastic-fiat-124-850-all-new.aspx

Yes, it was on top of the engine stuck in dried sand mud.  When installed on dash, it will not turn.  I left it hang and can reach it behind the fairing. 

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Re: Supermotard Quota
« Reply #23 on: September 18, 2023, 06:45:29 PM »
sounds familiar. It could be the routing of the cable.
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Re: Supermotard Quota
« Reply #24 on: September 20, 2023, 11:59:37 AM »
Calling it done.  Turned out great. It rides like a marshmallow compared to my California custom bike.






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Re: Supermotard Quota
« Reply #25 on: September 20, 2023, 02:51:01 PM »
john croucher -

are you running stock front forks on that racer? I did a similar conversion but had a 17inch front hoop made, geometry is awesome but the stock marzocci suspension just feels a bit soft

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Re: Supermotard Quota
« Reply #26 on: September 20, 2023, 03:01:54 PM »
Wait until you lean it over in a turn. Magic!
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Re: Supermotard Quota
« Reply #27 on: September 20, 2023, 06:44:45 PM »
john croucher -

are you running stock front forks on that racer? I did a similar conversion but had a 17inch front hoop made, geometry is awesome but the stock marzocci suspension just feels a bit soft

Sport 1100/Bassa forks.  Magni swingarm.  A weight loss on frame, wheels and clutch.

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Re: Supermotard Quota
« Reply #28 on: October 16, 2023, 08:04:22 AM »
Taking the Quota to the mud.  Never gets out of first gear.  Wrestling a 600 pound motorcycle in the wet, mud, narrow trails is way beyond my ability.

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Re: Supermotard Quota
« Reply #29 on: October 16, 2023, 08:11:13 AM »
I saw a Royal Enfield version.
They called it a Retard…. :popcorn:

 

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