Moto Guzzi in 2021...it has all come down to this?

[DaSwami]

V7
V9 Bobber
V85TT

That is all....

[Dirk_S]

I’d say stay tuned. Good things (like maybe a liquid-cooled big block) come to those who wait.

[travelingbyguzzi]

I’d say stay tuned. Good things (like maybe a liquid-cooled big block) come to those who wait.

Maybe released the week after I spring for a Speed Twin.

[bad Chad]

Ebbs and flows kids.  Guzzi has worked like this fo decades.   In 1998 you could have your choice of either a 1100 Ev or Centaro, period.
 
They have announced the reveal of an entirely new bike  for the 100th party in September, so try to keep your panties dry until then.

[Turin]

I’d say stay tuned. Good things (like maybe a liquid-cooled big block) come to those who wait.

Nevada 850

[Huzo]

It looks a bit grim when you put it like that.
Maybe they’re making room on the production line.

[blu guzz]

keep in mind that with the v7III series, there were many models, but all basically the same bike.  i agree that more choices are probably coming. i would like to see a 4 valve head on the v85tt engine with a 1000 higher red line making about 95 hp dressed in aerodynamic skin called Le Mans.

[twowheeladdict]

V7
V9 Bobber
V85TT

That is all....

and a great lineup it is.     I would love to own a 850 racer, V9 Bobber Sport, and a V85TT with red frame. 

[9fingers]

They had to add workers just to keep up with V85 production. Maybe they have their hands full with the few models that they have now?
Scott

[Dimitri_Harkov]

I don't see a problem in the line-up.
Great bikes that sell well too.
They just got rid of the dust gatherers.

Plus as some already mentioned, at least one new bike is due in September.

Cheers,
D.

[OldMojo]

Perhaps this is what it's going to take to keep the bills paid and fund that Euro 5 big block for their entries in the cruiser and sport tourer markets. Those segments are in a lull right now, but they'll be back.

[Guzzistajohn]

It's come down to THIS    https://www.rideapart.com/news/517122/moto-guzzi-kids-design-contest/?fbclid=IwAR0hEGHkLeEjcOPszHwXnSqhjmiRdK73ZXfrnsyLvaZHUxqAMnjdtGeQRoQ

Using kids as a design team

[DaSwami]

I dunno, three bikes, but really only one engine.   I guess if you only do one thing, do it really well!

Plus, I'm still chapped they never brought in the "no doubt" better handling V9 Roamer but decided to bring in the piggish Bobber instead....

[Turin]

Guzzistajohn wrote:

It's come down to THIS    https://www.rideapart.com/news/517122/moto-guzzi-kids-design-contest/?fbclid=IwAR0hEGHkLeEjcOPszHwXnSqhjmiRdK73ZXfrnsyLvaZHUxqAMnjdtGeQRoQ

Using kids as a design team
« Last Edit: Today at 07:38:29 AM by Guzzistajohn »

Beats using Oberdan Bozo .

[bad Chad]

"Plus, I'm still chapped they never brought in the "no doubt" better handling V9 Roamer but decided to bring in the piggish Bobber instead...."

   Then I was wondering what the hell I have been crowing about for the last couple years??


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[Murray]

I’d say stay tuned. Good things (like maybe a liquid-cooled big block) come to those who wait.

Should this start with once upon a time like all fairy tales? This is been on the rumor mill for 20 plus years now.

[sign216]

Well, if we are going to start a wish list, I'm voting for bringing back the original smallblock Heron head.  It emphasizes torque in low to mid range, where you use it for everyday.

Joe

[SIR REAL ED]

Making bikes that people want to buy?

Talk about a radical new business plan!!!

Is it sustainable?  Excessive profits always cause OEM's to go off the deep end.  Witness the glut of Japanese models in the 1970's/1980's.

[twowheeladdict]

I dunno, three bikes, but really only one engine.   I guess if you only do one thing, do it really well!

Plus, I'm still chapped they never brought in the "no doubt" better handling V9 Roamer but decided to bring in the piggish Bobber instead....

Have you personally ridden both?  All the reviews of the bobber I have watched on YouTube, the rider was surprised at how well it handled thinking that the front tire would be a detriment when in reality it is a benefit. 

Kev in MO has owned both.  I would like to hear his opinion. 

[Mayor_of_BBQ]

I like all the bikes they make now. Even the v9 bobber has grown on me.  Do I wish they made a sporty roadster? Sure...  But I've never bought a new Guzzi and I probably never will.. So I dont think I have much room to demand they do what I like.

The V7 is the best bike in the retro/standard category.
ADV bikes are the hottest thing in the market and by all accounts V85 is a good one.
People love to bitch that Harley's are too expensive, too heavy, and too complicated- so the v9 fills that light cruiser niche at 25% less $$ than a sportster. 

I dont see what people are complaining about. 

Guzzi made a huge power cruiser-- they are still sitting on dealer floors all around the country.
People wept over the demise of the CARC bikes-- you can't give one away on resale, I love mine but its not worth squat because no one wanted to buy them and hundreds of them sold as 'new' 5+ years after they left the factory. I'm 99.9% sure there are still 'new' griso and stelvios sitting in showrooms right now.
People claim guzzi has sporting heritage because they won a lot of races 65 years ago.. But the people who buy guzzis are mostly 55+ years old and dont ride sport bikes. The last real sport bikes they made didnt sell very well and were barely competitive in their class- universally regarded as slow, heavy, 'quirky' and antiquated when they were released.

The fact that 99% of all guzzi you see are V7's and they had to hire more employees to deal with demand for the V85 should tell you everything you need to know.

[Vagrant]

Well, if we are going to start a wish list, I'm voting for bringing back the original smallblock Heron head.  It emphasizes torque in low to mid range, where you use it for everyday.

Joe

You obviously have not ridden a V7III or V9 and for certain a V85!

[JJ]

Should this start with once upon a time like all fairy tales? This is been on the rumor mill for 20 plus years now.

Moto Guzzi - "Going out of business since 1921...." 

[Moparnut72]

I really wanted to check out a Roamer but the closest on was over 600 miles away. My local dealer had a Bobber at the time I settled for my V7 but it was sold. They wouldn't even let me look at it let alone sit on it. I had a Harley bobber, Slim S, it handled pretty well, for a Harley that is.
kk

[JJ]

I really wanted to check out a Roamer but the closest on was over 600 miles away. My local dealer had a Bobber at the time I settled for my V7 but it was sold. They wouldn't even let me look at it let alone sit on it. I had a Harley bobber, Slim S, it handled pretty well, for a Harley that is.
kk

I like the Bobber over the Rommer, because it has a big, fat FRONT TIRE...Much like the Harley Road Kings...they track quite well at slow and high speeds, (IMHO and experience...)

[SIR REAL ED]

I like all the bikes they make now. Even the v9 bobber has grown on me.  Do I wish they made a sporty roadster? Sure...  But I've never bought a new Guzzi and I probably never will.. So I dont think I have much room to demand they do what I like.

The V7 is the best bike in the retro/standard category.
ADV bikes are the hottest thing in the market and by all accounts V85 is a good one.
People love to bitch that Harley's are too expensive, too heavy, and too complicated- so the v9 fills that light cruiser niche at 25% less $$ than a sportster. 

I dont see what people are complaining about. 

Guzzi made a huge power cruiser-- they are still sitting on dealer floors all around the country.
People wept over the demise of the CARC bikes-- you can't give one away on resale, I love mine but its not worth squat because no one wanted to buy them and hundreds of them sold as 'new' 5+ years after they left the factory. I'm 99.9% sure there are still 'new' griso and stelvios sitting in showrooms right now.
People claim guzzi has sporting heritage because they won a lot of races 65 years ago.. But the people who buy guzzis are mostly 55+ years old and dont ride sport bikes. The last real sport bikes they made didnt sell very well and were barely competitive in their class- universally regarded as slow, heavy, 'quirky' and antiquated when they were released.

The fact that 99% of all guzzi you see are V7's and they had to hire more employees to deal with demand for the V85 should tell you everything you need to know.

Well said.  MG should send someone to take you out to lunch.  Has anyone ever seen a MG representative at a MG rally who had a notepad and was asking questions and taking notes?  I suspect in the internet age, all the OEM's are paying someone to monitor their specific forums.  But I have never seen anyone on line saying "Hi I represent Brand X customer research!  Let's talk!"

[blackcat]

"People claim guzzi has sporting heritage because they won a lot of races 65 years ago.. But the people who buy guzzis are mostly 55+ years old and dont ride sport bikes. The last real sport bikes they made didn't sell very well and were barely competitive in their class- universally regarded as slow, heavy, 'quirky' and antiquated when they were released."

True. The last true street riding sport bike was the 97 Daytona RS of which there were very few made. And of course the last real track sport bike was the MGS/01 of which they should have made into a street bike as it gathered lots of press. 

BUT, if Triumph can make a whole line of Classic bikes that seem to sell well and have a readily available line of accessories and a "Sport" bike with the Thruxton RS, then I don't see why Guzzi can't do the same thing. Granted the Thruxton RS is $16,200, has a claimed 103 HP and has clip ons so it will not attract the majority of the those 55 year old-school Guzzi owner's, but who cares? Triumph does have their new Speed Twin coming out with a more relaxed seating position and 100hp for $12,500.

OK, the days of trying to keep up with BMW are way over but they should at least try to keep close to Triumph in both HP, price and quality of finish. 

https://www.triumphmotorcycles.com/motorcycles/classic/thruxton-rs

[rocker59]

"Plus, I'm still chapped they never brought in the "no doubt" better handling V9 Roamer but decided to bring in the piggish Bobber instead...."

   Then I was wondering what the hell I have been crowing about for the last couple years??


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Yes.  Roamer was sold in USA.

[Moparnut72]

Yes they are available but you can't sell them if you don't stock them. One of my former bosses, hardware store and lumber yard owner always said if I don't have it I can't sell it.
kk

[Kev m]

I dunno, three bikes, but really only one engine.   I guess if you only do one thing, do it really well!

Plus, I'm still chapped they never brought in the "no doubt" better handling V9 Roamer but decided to bring in the piggish Bobber instead....

What the heck are you talking about?

Yeah one engine-ish, though at least two different states of tune.

But not only did they bring in the a Roamer to the US, they also brought a Bobber Sport. Which if you bothered to ride one instead of just making assumptions you'd learn that you're completely wrong about its handling.

Ugh

[Kev m]

Well, if we are going to start a wish list, I'm voting for bringing back the original smallblock Heron head.  It emphasizes torque in low to mid range, where you use it for everyday.

Joe

I'm sorry Joe but there's NOTHING "Better" about the Heron head smallblock.

My Heron head V7 doesn't make more torque anywhere in its powerband than my Hemi head V7 which feels as strong or stronger throughout the entire rpm range.