V100 Mandello Merged Threadfest

[twowheeladdict]

I like triples, although I've never owned one.  The seem combine the best of both 2 & 4 cyl bikes (for torque, power, revving, sound) and are extremely smooth.

I'd consider one of those if the clip-ons were a little higher.  If I sit on one and find it's more comfy, then I might have an interest.  I'm a little like Goldilocks, not too cruiser-ish, not too racer-ish. 

I don't need a 160HP   

My first bike was a Yamaha XS750 triple with shaft drive.  Reminiscing on that bike is what led me to purchase the 2010 V7 Cafe Classic because it was 750cc and shaft drive. 

My next triple was the 2014 Triumph Trophy SE.

I've owned 3 I-4 bikes, but not really a fan.  Thumpers, Twins of various configurations are my favorites.  The triples are a good compromise.   

[kingoffleece]

i thought the Trophy SE was one of the very best motorcycles I've ever ridden.

[LowRyter]

unless you are dying for a triple, sounds like the Speed Twin would scratch your itch.. 1200cc & most likely faster than a thruxton (at least the 2020-2021)... but the size of a V7 and with classic looks.

I'll keep my Ducati, thanks.   Speed Triple with a fairing might be a good one if it had less aggressive ergos and a bag option.   But I'm not interested in any another Triumph to replace my Duc.

[LowRyter]

My first bike was a Yamaha XS750 triple with shaft drive.  Reminiscing on that bike is what led me to purchase the 2010 V7 Cafe Classic because it was 750cc and shaft drive. 

My next triple was the 2014 Triumph Trophy SE.

I've owned 3 I-4 bikes, but not really a fan.  Thumpers, Twins of various configurations are my favorites.  The triples are a good compromise.

I thought that Yamaha was one of the smoothest bikes I've ever ridden. 

I'm also very interested in a touring bike, I've ridden the Trophy, it has lots going on.  Unfortunately I rode one with lowered seat and was concerned about cramped legroom.  Too bad they're not in production although I only purchase used anymore.

[twowheeladdict]

i thought the Trophy SE was one of the very best motorcycles I've ever ridden.

I regret parting with it the way I did.  The only negative about the motorcycle was the weather protection.  Might as well have been in a car with no air conditioning with the windows rolled up in July.  LOL!

At the time I had two bikes that had way too much weather protection, and my dealer lost triumph and any ability to do warranty work or diagnostics so I was on my own.

I should have traded my Road Glide Ultra for a Road Glide Special, or a Road King, but instead I traded the Trophy SE for a Road King because that dealer made me an offer I couldn't refuse. 

Definitely the most agile sport touring bike I have ever owned and could eat up the miles.  I toured 18 states and the Canadian side of the Great Lakes on that bike.  The electronic suspension settings ruined me for almost every bike to follow ended up requiring suspension upgrades.  Once you have experienced great suspension and adjustability everything else is a compromise.

[spmoto]

Hey John (LowRyter),

What Ducati do you own that has you so satisfied, ST by any chance?

SM

[LowRyter]

Hey John (LowRyter),

What Ducati do you own that has you so satisfied, ST by any chance?

SM

SS  939

[stubbie]

Have never ridden a Speed Triple but there seems to be a lot for sale in this part of the world. Every bike shop seems to have a least 1, many have 2 that are usually no more than 4 years old. Not sure if that's a good indicator of what they are like.

[LowRyter]

Have never ridden a Speed Triple but there seems to be a lot for sale in this part of the world. Every bike shop seems to have a least 1, many have 2 that are usually no more than 4 years old. Not sure if that's a good indicator of what they are like.

As I've said, they have a strange riding position.  The older ones have good power, the newer ones have more power.   Little air protection.  Originally, wild styling and now... OK. 

Nice bikes, never turned my crank- until I saw this new one.  I think it rocks but then an even more aggressive riding position.   

[Matteo]

I thought it was a foregone conclusion that it was 1000 cc.....(hope it is).

No tellin with this bunch, after all they did name an 850 V7.

[Huzo]

No tellin with this bunch, after all they did name an 850 V7.

I reckon I saw in one of the release that it’s 1000 cc.

[SIR REAL ED]

glad they didn't call it the ManJello.....or the Mandible.....

https://www.ktmforums.com/threads/new-2022-moto-guzzi-v100-mandello.137909/

[Kremmen]

glad they didn't call it the ManJello.....or the Mandible.....

https://www.ktmforums.com/threads/new-2022-moto-guzzi-v100-mandello.137909/

You have to have a membership; I have enough of those to last a lifetime.  Just another discussion thread or is there any unique info?

[SIR REAL ED]

You have to have a membership; I have enough of those to last a lifetime.  Just another discussion thread or is there any unique info?

Oooops, didn't notice that!

No useful information, just a nice picture I had not seen before, but PJPRO1 already posted it at the start of page 2 of this thread.

they also could have called it the Manicotti!  Which my Italian relatives insist on pronouncing as Man-i-gott!

[Kremmen]

Haha! Thanks.

I'll hold off for a sportier v120 or v130 for now. But if that ends up not happening, a Mandello will be part of my stable for sure. I like the name a lot - I think they nailed it with that!

[moto]

Don't forget, it's:

"man-dale-lo," not "man-dell-o"!

All self-respecting Guzzisti who say "goot-sie" will henceforth be required to pronounce the new bike's name come un italiano.

You've been warned.

Moto

P.S. Though I meant the above in fun, I remember a conversation with two card-carrying Ph.D. academics from upper class families in Milano in which I kept trying to tell them about a town they had never heard of called "Man-dell'-o dell laur'-ee-oh" on Lake Como. Though I used the preferred American procedure for making myself understood to foreigners by repeating the same syllables ever more slowly and with increasing volume, I had no luck. Now I wonder if it was my pronunciation, since Mandello is less than 50 miles from Milan. 

[Mayor_of_BBQ]

ok boys, money where your mouth is time.....  I just placed a deposit on a new 2022 V100 Mandello Centenario edition to put me first in line with the NC dealer (Team Charlotte)

Hoping to have the first one off the boat, or damn near it.

Any guesses when I will take delivery?  I say by end of May 2022, I have nothing to base that off of!

[lazlokovacs]

good drills!

I'm gonna wait for some specs at least!!!

[rocker59]

ok boys, money where your mouth is time.....  I just placed a deposit on a new 2022 V100 Mandello Centenario edition to put me first in line with the NC dealer (Team Charlotte)

Did they have the MSRP info, yet? 

[spmoto]

I tried to put down a deposit at my nearest dealer, Seacoast sport cycle in NH but they wouldn't take one yet since they had no pricing nor delivery info yet. I'm on a list for a call when they have more.
Steve M

[Mayor_of_BBQ]

Did they have the MSRP info, yet?

It cant be more than a couple grand over the cost of a v85...  I dont really care, you gotta pay to play, right?  Big question is if the Centenario green one really wears that fully active Ohlins, 'plain' Ohlins, or some other sort of upgraded suspenders on release

[Mayor_of_BBQ]

I tried to put down a deposit at my nearest dealer, Seacoast sport cycle in NH but they wouldn't take one yet since they had no pricing nor delivery info yet. I'm on a list for a call when they have more.
Steve M

Thats what the first two dealers I called told me. Team Charlotte is my closest dealer, but I called them third based on a minor fumble they made with me a while back.. Nothing egregious. If I need warranty support, I would probably take it to them, so might as well buy the bike there.

[rocker59]

It cant be more than a couple grand over the cost of a v85...  I dont really care, you gotta pay to play, right?  Big question is if the Centenario green one really wears that fully active Ohlins, 'plain' Ohlins, or some other sort of upgraded suspenders on release

Would $17990 put you off the Centenario?

[LowRyter]

Would $17990 put you off the Centenario?

basic bike for $12k

top level bike for $14.5

bag/touring package + $1400


Just my guess.  We're two grand apart.

[Mayor_of_BBQ]

Would $17990 put you off the Centenario?

at that price it would have to have the full monty active ohlins setup front and rear.. plus a full set of nice factory luggage and a centerstand or some heated grips or something!  I would probably bite on that, I know that full ohlins suite bumps the price of the Aprillias and Ducatis that have it by $3.5-4000!  I deff dont want to pay that much, I am hoping it's more like $14-15k- which I am assuming is more of the range. I dont actually care about the computer-controlled suspension, but I will take it if it's the only configuration offered.  The deposit isnt non-refundable or anything and although I indicated a green one, I'm sure they will apply it to whatever v100 they can get.  I dislike the looks of the red one enough that I would probably get it painted if I was forced to settle on that one over the cost of the Ohlins kit.

They have not shown any bags for it yet, and it looks like nowhere to attach a centerstand-- with that hollow rear axle I am betting the will assume ppl use a pit stand or whatever.
Looks like the cruise will be standard based off the switchgear, so luggage, center stand, and maybe heated grips are about the only accessories I could possibly need or want. I dont much go for low seats, engine guards, or aux lights... cant think of anything else they might offer to sweeten the deal at a $18k price point!

So I guess the short answer is no I wouldnt be happy with $17,999 as pictured...  If it had fully active ohlins array, bags and a centerstand and cruise and heated grips I would probably do it, but I wouldnt be thrilled about it.

[PhilB]

Would $17990 put you off the Centenario?

If it's a top machine, not at all.  After all I was seriously considering a Motus for almost twice that much.  And the best description of the Motus I ever saw was that it most resembled an "angry Moto Guzzi".

So if they manage to put this thing out there without there being any significant design flaws, I don't see me worrying about the price until we're talking well over $20K.  My main other contender is the Ducati 950SS, and by the time you get the "S" model, and add the luggage and so one, you've looking at over $17K for that.  The other one I want to test is the Kawasaki H2 SX SE, and I think those are over $20K.  The KTM 1290GT is an outside contender, and those are about $20K as well.  So I think I'm going to be spending about that much regardless.

PhilB

[Bulldog9]

My first bike was a Yamaha XS750 triple with shaft drive.  Reminiscing on that bike is what led me to purchase the 2010 V7 Cafe Classic because it was 750cc and shaft drive. 

My next triple was the 2014 Triumph Trophy SE.

I've owned 3 I-4 bikes, but not really a fan.  Thumpers, Twins of various configurations are my favorites.  The triples are a good compromise.

I think we've discussed this, but I still have my 1978 750 Triple. Fun bike. Safely tucked away with my 1970 XS1100 till I retire.

[lucky phil]

ok boys, money where your mouth is time.....  I just placed a deposit on a new 2022 V100 Mandello Centenario edition to put me first in line with the NC dealer (Team Charlotte)

Hoping to have the first one off the boat, or damn near it.

Any guesses when I will take delivery?  I say by end of May 2022, I have nothing to base that off of!

Excellent, someone to finish off the R&D and sort out all the early engineering and production issues for me while I wait patiently for a few years till they're sorted. I really appreciate all the work of the early adopters.

Ciao

[Huzo]

Excellent, someone to finish off the R&D and sort out all the early engineering and production issues for me while I wait patiently for a few years till they're sorted. I really appreciate all the work of the early adopters.

Ciao

Well Phil.
If it wasn’t for those guys, there’d be nothing to wait for.
 

[Socalrob]

at that price it would have to have the full monty active ohlins setup front and rear.. plus a full set of nice factory luggage and a centerstand or some heated grips or something!  I would probably bite on that, I know that full ohlins suite bumps the price of the Aprillias and Ducatis that have it by $3.5-4000!  I deff dont want to pay that much, I am hoping it's more like $14-15k- which I am assuming is more of the range. I dont actually care about the computer-controlled suspension, but I will take it if it's the only configuration offered.  The deposit isnt non-refundable or anything and although I indicated a green one, I'm sure they will apply it to whatever v100 they can get.  I dislike the looks of the red one enough that I would probably get it painted if I was forced to settle on that one over the cost of the Ohlins kit.

They have not shown any bags for it yet, and it looks like nowhere to attach a centerstand-- with that hollow rear axle I am betting the will assume ppl use a pit stand or whatever.
Looks like the cruise will be standard based off the switchgear, so luggage, center stand, and maybe heated grips are about the only accessories I could possibly need or want. I dont much go for low seats, engine guards, or aux lights... cant think of anything else they might offer to sweeten the deal at a $18k price point!

So I guess the short answer is no I wouldnt be happy with $17,999 as pictured...  If it had fully active ohlins array, bags and a centerstand and cruise and heated grips I would probably do it, but I wouldnt be thrilled about it.

I may be cross shopping this bike with a BMW R1250RS.   As I would configure that bike it’s around $22k with luggage, with active suspension.  I am looking for a used 2020 bike with 5-10k miles, looks like they run around $17k.  I’m hoping the Guzzi comes in at $19k with bags and active Ohlins.  Of course it better have heated grips.