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Ok Kev that’s clear.But the unspoken implication is that, although you cannot build something new that is non compliant, you cannot have something you already own, legislated out of existence retrospectively…Well yes you can.For instance our gun laws here in Australia were changed almost overnight, yesterday it’s legal and today it isn’t.In the case of our vehicles…You will still be able to own a given vehicle but if you operate it, you are in breach.
I probably would have bought the V85 if it had the same performance that it does and was water cooled.
This is a good subject matter gentlemen, loyality to our beloved “air cooled motorcycle motors. However if this thread is going to remain active and online let’s stay away from the government regulation aspect of the conversation, as we all know where that will end up. Thanks PS: there’s nothing sweeter than an ole air cooled V twin, of any brand, on a cool temp night👍Dan
that pollution is a byproduct of the shit we (westerners) consume.
But the unspoken implication is that, although you cannot build something new that is non compliant, you cannot have something you already own, legislated out of existence retrospectively…Well yes you can.For instance our gun laws here in Australia were changed almost overnight, yesterday it’s legal and today it isn’t.In the case of our vehicles…You will still be able to own a given vehicle but if you operate it, you are in breach.Contrary to conventional wisdom, the USA is not actually the centre of the universe.
Plus111 Kev , Glad I'm old !
Just a discussion, not a debate. OK, I'ma gonna walk to work now
I'm glad you're old, too. I mean, I gotta be younger than SOMEONE out on this forum !
Again, shy of Rush's Red Barchetta and some pretty cheesy movie I barely remember as a kid with Lee Majors (the Google says it was "The Last Chase") there's no precedent for something like that in the US. And though I'm not saying it could never happen, I am saying it seems pretty likely anytime in the near future, or probably most of our lifetimes.
I'm simply saying that to my knowledge, in the US, no law has ever been passed forcing someone to stop using a motor vehicle, especially a classic or antique, based on changing emissions standards.
Very difficult to see how owning an ICE would ever be illegal, at least here in the United States. Purchasing a new ICE, however, will likely become extremely difficult, at some point.
I'm just quoting myself fo Huzo's sake. If you had read a tiny bit more carefully, you would have understood, I was only speaking of the country I happen to reside in. Other nations do things as they see fit. Just saying, we could have avoided some needless back and fourth on this.
That's not how it works in the US.
Well it’s never “needless” Chad.But while we’re talking, it’s “forth..” (I’ll overlook the other missing letters in some of your words).I’ll read “a tiny bit more carefully”, if you’ll type “a tiny bit more carefully”.But to quote you from a previous thread.“If it bugs you, I’ll keep it up..” Oh and BTW..You’ll notice that my first response with this flavour was BEFORE you specified the good ole’ land of the free.Your initial post was not as specific and come on Chad, you love a bit of “back and fourth”, but not as much when it ends the wrong way.
No doubt! We could all us a bit more "back and fourth" ( picture my right index finger plunging to and fro through a circle created by my left hand thumb and index finger).I really wish I was a better speller, but I am what I am. I was diagnosed as youth with a learning disability, that specifically caused me HUGE trouble spelling and working with mathematics. I have over the years, found ways to minimize those short comings, but the spelling one continues to dog me. Even with spell check, I make a lot of mistakes, but (here is an example, I have almost no idea how to spell the following, and it's French!) kay serah, serah, whatever, will be will be. And I'm going to run this through spell check before I post.And to toss gasoline on he fire, my spell check locks up on Safari 50% of the time, but that's on me, and I need to address that.
I do know that at one point in time California did pass such a law. '68 and older you had to buy a green stamp and if '69 or newer you had to make them meet current sniff test.I don't know if they are still enforcing said laws, but i watch my father fight getting an air pump and cat to work on his MGB only to end up with a car that got worse mileage and had no power to climb a hill..
Are classic cars exempt from emissions in California?All vehicles that are model-year 1975 and older do not require a Smog Check.Frequently Asked Questions: Smog Check Programca.govhttps://www.bar.ca.gov › smog-check-program › faqSearch for: Are classic cars exempt from emissions in California?Does a 20 year old car need emissions in CA?Smog inspections are required when you register or renew registration for a vehicle in California, but there are some exceptions. Your vehicle does not need a smog inspection if your: Gasoline-powered vehicle is a 1975 year model or older (This includes motorcycles and trailers.)
