Author Topic: V85 vs v100 which is the more practical commuter???  (Read 14158 times)

Offline DoubleThumper

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Re: V85 vs v100 which is the more practical commuter???
« Reply #90 on: May 14, 2023, 09:00:29 PM »
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Ahhhhhhh, never did I think I would reach the point in life when I was actively trying NOT to buy a bike.

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Re: V85 vs v100 which is the more practical commuter???
« Reply #91 on: May 15, 2023, 04:17:35 AM »
Of course another advantage of liquid cooling, is that you can actually buy a big bike that passes emission standards and can actually outrun a 12 year old kid on a pedal trike…!
An air cooled 1020 cc new Moto Guzzi would be a wonderful thing to buy new, until you went to get it registered and then you’d get told to bugger off…!
That would represent a fair disadvantage… :angry:
IF I ever buy a new bike it will be another Guzzi, so I guess it’s a fait accompli that the bastard will be liquid cooled.

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Re: V85 vs v100 which is the more practical commuter???
« Reply #92 on: May 15, 2023, 07:15:21 AM »
Of course another advantage of liquid cooling, is that you can actually buy a big bike that passes emission standards and can actually outrun a 12 year old kid on a pedal trike…!
An air cooled 1020 cc new Moto Guzzi would be a wonderful thing to buy new, until you went to get it registered and then you’d get told to bugger off…!
That would represent a fair disadvantage… :angry:
IF I ever buy a new bike it will be another Guzzi, so I guess it’s a fait accompli that the bastard will be liquid cooled.

Good luck with that. 

In my state, and the last two I lived in, we don't even have vehicle inspections.  You can register anything with a title or other paperwork if you took a loan.  Four out of my 5 bikes are air or air/oil cooled.  I have no need for liquid cooling where I ride. 
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Re: V85 vs v100 which is the more practical commuter???
« Reply #93 on: May 15, 2023, 09:02:45 AM »
Keep in mind that the V100 is the shiny new toy in the lineup and you'll be paying top dollar and buying brand new technology. The V85TT has been around a few years now and you can get very good prices on both new and used. The difference in price should be considered.
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Re: V85 vs v100 which is the more practical commuter???
« Reply #94 on: May 15, 2023, 09:42:25 AM »
Liquid cooled offers better performance if that's what you're after. But if you have a fondness for traditional air-cooled motors you better get one while you can. Yeah you can always find a used one later on but have you checked prices on airhead BMW's recently?
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Re: V85 vs v100 which is the more practical commuter???
« Reply #95 on: May 15, 2023, 09:51:18 AM »
Liquid cooled offers better performance if that's what you're after. But if you have a fondness for traditional air-cooled motors you better get one while you can. Yeah you can always find a used one later on but have you checked prices on airhead BMW's recently?

The *gasp* novelty of owning one of the last remaining completely air-cooled ADV bikes—if not THE last?—was an argument I gave to someone on a New England FB group page. Heck, even the Royal Enfield Himalayan (and its Scram sibling) now has an oil cooler.
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Re: V85 vs v100 which is the more practical commuter???
« Reply #96 on: May 15, 2023, 12:29:15 PM »
Getting back to the original topic - why not wait for the V100 Stelvio and have the best of both worlds? I've told myself that my V85TT will be the last new bike I buy but provided the pricing isn't astronomical, the V100 Stelvio might be very tempting.
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Re: V85 vs v100 which is the more practical commuter???
« Reply #97 on: May 15, 2023, 03:23:59 PM »
The *gasp* novelty of owning one of the last remaining completely air-cooled ADV bikes—if not THE last?—was an argument I gave to someone on a New England FB group page. Heck, even the Royal Enfield Himalayan (and its Scram sibling) now has an oil cooler.

The RE Himalayan always had an oil cooler. 

I don't believe that is the same as oil cooled heads.
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Re: V85 vs v100 which is the more practical commuter???
« Reply #98 on: May 15, 2023, 03:36:39 PM »
The RE Himalayan always had an oil cooler.

Oof, good correction. I was at my local RE dealer a couple days ago and only noticed the oil coolers for the first time on those 411 power plants.

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Re: V85 vs v100 which is the more practical commuter???
« Reply #99 on: May 15, 2023, 06:43:21 PM »

Oof, good correction. I was at my local RE dealer a couple days ago and only noticed the oil coolers for the first time on those 411 power plants.
I have been enjoying this discussion quite a bit. Appreciate the insight. Still debating. So much to like on both platforms and I must admit I really love my v7 so not in a rush. First world problems I guess

 


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