A 1000S from Michigan

[Turin]

I did too. 18K is still a lot of $.

[sdcr]

There were some unoriginal aspects of the BaT 1000S, like the painted valve covers. Also, the Akront spoke wheels may, or may not have been recalled. Plus, there were just a handful of bidders, and few comments.

[Mayor_of_BBQ]

I feel like BAT has lost a lot of steam in the past 2 years. Seems like a lot of people overpayed for some iffy vehicles, and they no longer have to cachet they once did.

For a while, people seemed to think BAT had somehow tested/approved/vetted/guaranteed the vehicles but in reality, the owner compiles the info and forwards to them... they just write the Ad and run the auction.

The experience of selling via BAT soured me on the site. Other than looking at this bike once, I havent looked/browsed (or certainly bid) on BAT since the day my Ambo sold there.

[sdcr]

I feel like BAT has lost a lot of steam in the past ......

The experience of selling via BAT soured me on the site. Other than looking at this bike once, I havent looked/browsed (or certainly bid) on BAT since the day my Ambo sold there.

I saw your Ambassador auction.
Thought it went very well, no?

[guido guzzi]

I feel like BAT has lost a lot of steam in the past 2 years. Seems like a lot of people overpayed for some iffy vehicles, and they no longer have to cachet they once did.

For a while, people seemed to think BAT had somehow tested/approved/vetted/guaranteed the vehicles but in reality, the owner compiles the info and forwards to them... they just write the Ad and run the auction.

The experience of selling via BAT soured me on the site. Other than looking at this bike once, I havent looked/browsed (or certainly bid) on BAT since the day my Ambo sold there.

$11,750.00 is pretty good money for an Ambassador... What about the experience did you not like?

[Mayor_of_BBQ]

I wanted a reserve, they refused only after I had spent months back and forth send them the details etc and paid hundreds for professional pics and video. They schedule the auction listing, and it went live *months* after I wanted it to.  As a matter of fact, my auction ended the day after the lowest DOW/S&P price point recorded in like 7 years and the day of a bombshell inflation report.  I firmly believe if it had auctioned 6 weeks sooner, it would have gone for $2-5k more.

Yes, $11,750 is good money for an ambassador, but lesser loops had sold on BAT in the previous year for up to $17.5k.

In the end, I didn't lose money on it... more or less broke even, but I wanted to set a $13k reserve, I would have rather kept it than sell for the aprox $300 profit. I probably could have kept it fairly pristine for 2-3 seasons and enjoyed it and still sold private near $9-10k. I only really rushed to sell it on BAT because I was seeing these insane sale prices. Adding insult to injury, I barely rode and enjoyed it once I signed up with BAT because I didnt want to mess it up or add too many miles in the run-up to sale. So I had this awesome bike I put together sitting in my garage for two months instead of running in the sun.

I bought into the hype that just by virtue of selling on BAT that it would bring silly money. That was my bad. I just didn't like their approach to scheduling and listing.

[Dave Swanson]

I was watching a quite nice '75 R90S sell for only $6500!  The seller was absolutely gutted because BAT was pretty adamant that he list it at no reserve.  The watchers were just as stunned also expecting it to sell in the 11-12K range.  Luck of the draw with the no reserve feature. 

[sdcr]

I’ve noticed a few Dealer auctions, that the seller stated were sold at a “ loss”.
 Hard to really verify their claim, but the sale price seemed low.

[guido guzzi]

Watching some of those BAT bikes - maybe cars too - reach insane prices makes me think there's less than honest activity taking place there.
So a $6500.00 hammer price is $7150.00 with buyer's premium and that's certainly well bought for a nice R90S

[guido guzzi]

I wanted a reserve, they refused only after I had spent months back and forth send them the details etc and paid hundreds for professional pics and video. They schedule the auction listing, and it went live *months* after I wanted it to.  As a matter of fact, my auction ended the day after the lowest DOW/S&P price point recorded in like 7 years and the day of a bombshell inflation report.  I firmly believe if it had auctioned 6 weeks sooner, it would have gone for $2-5k more.

Yes, $11,750 is good money for an ambassador, but lesser loops had sold on BAT in the previous year for up to $17.5k.

In the end, I didn't lose money on it... more or less broke even, but I wanted to set a $13k reserve, I would have rather kept it than sell for the aprox $300 profit. I probably could have kept it fairly pristine for 2-3 seasons and enjoyed it and still sold private near $9-10k. I only really rushed to sell it on BAT because I was seeing these insane sale prices. Adding insult to injury, I barely rode and enjoyed it once I signed up with BAT because I didnt want to mess it up or add too many miles in the run-up to sale. So I had this awesome bike I put together sitting in my garage for two months instead of running in the sun.

I bought into the hype that just by virtue of selling on BAT that it would bring silly money. That was my bad. I just didn't like their approach to scheduling and listing.

Thank you for the information. Have heard that getting them to approve a reserve is awfully rare. Knowing that they won't give you an up-front answer on a reserve makes me wary of selling with them.

[blackcat]

I wouldn't post a bike on there or anywhere without a reserve and it would be the first thing I'd say to them before proceeding. I have a friend who took a loss on a BAT motorcycle sale and he has nothing good to say about them too.

[Turin]

I don't care for BAT's boiler plate listings, and how they state the obvious. ( sometimes they get things wrong) They are not as picky as they let on. I've sold a few bikes on E-bay, and it's nerve wracking. I'd rather do a classified listing.

[Mayor_of_BBQ]

I don't care for BAT's boiler plate listings, and how they state the obvious. ( sometimes they get things wrong) They are not as picky as they let on. I've sold a few bikes on E-bay, and it's nerve wracking. I'd rather do a classified listing.

I've always had excellent luck on ebay, as a matter of fact I sold my v65 on there and was absolutely shocked to get $6500 for it.. Never seen a smallblock sell for that much. I paid $3200 for it and owned it 8 years!

[Canuck750]

Not a fan of BAT, bikes don’t seem to go for much, it’s mostly a high end car marketplace IMHO.
I sometimes read the 65 - 70 Shelby Mustang listings, they repeat the same text over and over. I couldn’t afford a 68 Shelby GT500KR forty years ago when I had a chance to buy one and I can’t afford one now either. 😩

[Stretch]

That was a nice bike, but as others have stated, $18K is a lot of money for it.

I sold a GB500 on BAT with a reserve - which I set at the average, (excluding
the highest and lowest bids) of those GB500s that had sold before. They couldn't
argue with that logic and they didn't. And it sold for about $500 more than the
average. One knucklehead made a comment or two that probably lowered the
bids a wee bit, but overall I'm well pleased with the result.

I talked to the people at Owl's Head Transportation Museum about listing it
in their fall auction, but they wanted me to list it with no reserve. No way.

                                                              -Stretch

[cliffrod]

I sold a GB500 on BAT with a reserve - which I set at the average, (excluding
the highest and lowest bids) of those GB500s that had sold before. They couldn't
argue with that logic and they didn't. And it sold for about $500 more than the
average.

                                                              -Stretch

^^this^^ is what most people overlook in terms of appraisal valuation.  They only see the big $$$.   As an auctioneer (formerly licensed in both SC and VT), you know that there will be high, medium and low prices.  What really matters in terms of appraisal is the mean or average selling price of multiple relevant comps in a similar setting, not just some crazy price resulting from 2-3 people having a moment..

Auctions are all about the audience and timing.  The same item that sets a record in one venue will often be a huge bargain in another venue where, for whatever reason, the right people are not present, the fervor to own that item has fizzled or both.

[blackcat]

That was a nice bike, but as others have stated, $18K is a lot of money for it.

The last 1000S that sold on BAT which had more miles and some marginal aesthetics sold for almost $23K without BAT charges. The current sale was under priced by comparison.

[s1120]

Not a fan of BAT, bikes don’t seem to go for much, it’s mostly a high end car marketplace IMHO.
I sometimes read the 65 - 70 Shelby Mustang listings, they repeat the same text over and over. I couldn’t afford a 68 Shelby GT500KR forty years ago when I had a chance to buy one and I can’t afford one now either. 😩

That was my thoughts on a 1000S. I fell in love with it [and moto guzzi as a brand]on a few demo rides back when they were new. At the time, life wasn't in a place that I had that free coin. Fast forward to modern times when I have more extra money to play with, and the prices are still out of reach. Maybe one day ill fall into one, but I cant image the prices falling that much more in the future.

[sdcr]

That was my thoughts on a 1000S. I fell in love with it.....and the prices are still out of reach. Maybe one day ill fall into one, but I cant image the prices falling that much more in the future.

Considering that Moto Guzzi built, about 1360, and less than 200 imported to the USA, I doubt that prices will drop. Just saw a friends 1993 1000S. He bought it originally, for $6500. Sold it for $9300, then bought it back for $12000.

[Scout63]

I’ve had mixed results on BAT but their recent refusal to list most bikes with a reserve is souring me.  My G5 did fine at 7500 but my very nice v50 sold low.  It’s the lack of control that is frustrating.

[kidsmoke]

Considering that Moto Guzzi built, about 1360, and less than 200 imported to the USA, I doubt that prices will drop. Just saw a friends 1993 1000S. He bought it originally, for $6500. Sold it for $9300, then bought it back for $12000.

Really? 200 over the 4 year run? I knew the 93’s were ultra limited (19 in black and green?) but I assumed there were more across the run domestically. Bodes well for those holding’