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Re: Gear Shifting Technique?
« Reply #30 on: August 14, 2023, 01:15:26 PM »
If you don't let off the throttle while shifting the little Hondas with a centrifugal clutch it is a good way to smoke the clutch shoes, which are one of the weakest points in the drivetrain. The same is true for the modern Honda 110cc and 125cc bikes that use a traditional shifter clutch and a separate centrifugal clutch.

True, I was making a joke about how the modern bikes are going full circle.  We had those bikes when we were kids because it was easier to learn on.  Not quick shifters are a crutch for those who don't know how to control their bike otherwise.  No on on the street "needs" a quick shifter to shave hundredths of seconds off their stop light to stop light time. 
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Re: Gear Shifting Technique?
« Reply #31 on: August 14, 2023, 01:54:47 PM »
I find that to be a great thing about many Honda products throughout their history, they're so approachable you don't need to be an expert rider. Nearly anyone can graduate from a bicycle to being a motorcyclist on them. What might be a "crutch" to one rider is a comfort item or "rider aid" to another. Just like automatic transmission cars or DCT bikes, they're not for everyone. Quick shifters aren't just there to shave time off of shifts, they make for smooth and easy shifting. I know plenty of folks who have installed them on touring bikes to make riding more enjoyable with arthritis as well as to prevent helmet bumping with someone riding pillion. They're able to enjoy just hopping on their motorcycle and riding while leaving it up to those in the community with skill and determination to find out if a gearshifter should be held in place or not.
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Re: Gear Shifting Technique?
« Reply #32 on: August 14, 2023, 02:29:19 PM »
I find that to be a great thing about many Honda products throughout their history, they're so approachable you don't need to be an expert rider. Nearly anyone can graduate from a bicycle to being a motorcyclist on them. What might be a "crutch" to one rider is a comfort item or "rider aid" to another. Just like automatic transmission cars or DCT bikes, they're not for everyone. Quick shifters aren't just there to shave time off of shifts, they make for smooth and easy shifting. I know plenty of folks who have installed them on touring bikes to make riding more enjoyable with arthritis as well as to prevent helmet bumping with someone riding pillion. They're able to enjoy just hopping on their motorcycle and riding while leaving it up to those in the community with skill and determination to find out if a gearshifter should be held in place or not.
Well that seems entirely reasonable.
I’m just constantly amused at people who buy a Moto Guzzi and then pop the champagne because it has a quick shifter.
It’s like having RBW and an LCD display on a BSA A65….
But the above comments are quite pertinent I reckon.

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Re: Gear Shifting Technique?
« Reply #33 on: August 14, 2023, 03:11:42 PM »
True, I was making a joke about how the modern bikes are going full circle.  We had those bikes when we were kids because it was easier to learn on.  Not quick shifters are a crutch for those who don't know how to control their bike otherwise.  No on on the street "needs" a quick shifter to shave hundredths of seconds off their stop light to stop light time.

Yep, you really understand quick shifters. But like most threads you and I both participate in if I say up you have to say down :thumb:

There are lots of things no one on the street "needs" things like more than 15 HP but we have access to 200 HP bikes all day long. Is ABS and traction absolutely "needed", nope, but we got it too. Heck, we don't "need" motorcycles.
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Re: Gear Shifting Technique?
« Reply #34 on: August 14, 2023, 05:03:34 PM »
The "to clutch or not to clutch" issue was discussed ad nauseam here some time ago.

   I liked Mike Harper's reply to the subject of not using the clutch as "fool hardy"

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