V100 California Merged Threadfest

[bad Chad]

HD and Indian touring bikes have quite a bit more torque than thy 1400,  do to the significantly greater cc capacity.

[LowRyter]

HD and Indian touring bikes have quite a bit more torque than thy 1400,  do to the significantly greater cc capacity.

Not in my experience by the seat of the pants given when the bikes came out.  I'm not talking numbers, I'm talking riding. 

[egschade]

That 1400 had great power curve for tourer.   It had all the low punch of a Harley and another 2000 rpms for power.  It was a nice machine that they gave up on.  Just like they gave up on 1200 8v. 

The new bike has really good punch.  It's lighter weight bike that torque-y but revvy engine. 

Apples and oranges for sure.  But fo far as the 1400 it had it in spades over the Harleys and Indians.  But reliability and newer Indians and Harleys and it was gone.

Wasn't dropping the big block engines due to an inability to meet ever tightening emission standards? Not so much giving up as being forced out.

[Vagrant]

That's the official answer but, if it had been selling I'm sure they could have gotten at least 5 more years without too much effort.

[twowheeladdict]

I have no interest in a liquid cooled motorcycle unless they keep it looking air cooled and hide the radiator, and plumbing well like Triumph has managed to do. 

[rocker59]

May as well start a thread for it.  It's on the way...

Patiently awaiting the return...

Piaggio:  "New product launches and careful dealer stock management are planned for 2024."

I'm ready for some spy shots, or something!

[ScepticalScotty]

I suppose we all have different ideas as to what is a serious tourer. For me it couldn't get more serious the the V100 Mandello with luggage (NOT a top box). I live in the UK, near to Europe, where in the words of a comedian "where the history comes from".  I like curves and mountains, food and people, and different cultures when I can find them.

[SLDMRossi]

https://www.cycleworld.com/motorcycle-news/moto-guzzi-california-trademark-renewed/

Steven Rossi

[ff73148]

https://www.cycleworld.com/motorcycle-news/moto-guzzi-california-trademark-renewed/

[bigbikerrick]

Something about the name "California" denotes beautiful, warm, sunny, weather,and a feeling of  all around pleasantness. I am not sure what they wanted to convey with the name "Nevada".... a "high roller" maybe? 
Possibly if they want to convey a tough, in your face" street- wise" image, they will debut the Moto Guzzi V 100 New Jersey ? 

I personally think they should build the Moto Guzzi V 100 Arizona Stone!   
Rick.

[jrt]

I personally think they should build the Moto Guzzi V 100 Arizona Stone!   
Rick.

Arizona Stona sounds like a Frank Zappa song.   

[rocker59]

https://www.cycleworld.com/motorcycle-news/moto-guzzi-california-trademark-renewed/

Steven Rossi

Thanks.  I'm merging this into the existing California threadfest

[JJ]

"Monster Cruiser!!" 

[Moparnut72]

This has got me wondering. I purchased a V100 not quite six months ago. I traded my Audace a couple of years ago because it got to be too much for me. I traded it for a T120, more of a middle weight cruiser type of bike. MG didn't make anything in that range. I already also had a V7lll but didn't think it suited me as a long distance tourer so when the V100 hit the market the T120 was traded for the V100. I am a Guzzi guy after all. The V100 isn't quite the bike for me but it fills the bill and I like it a lot. But now if they are going to build a California with the 100 motor it might be more to my liking if it isn't a heavy monster. But I am not trading again, I will ride my Mandello as long as I can and finish with my V7. But when the time comes maybe I will finish on a Vespa but I will probably be too far gone for one of those when I can't handle the V7 any longer. Getting old is the pits but it is better than the alternative.
kk

[rocker59]

May as well start a thread for it.  It's on the way...

Almost a year since Guzzi released this teaser, and still we wait...   

[bad Chad]

Was that an official Guzzi teaser?   I don't think it was.   It looks like someone took the wheels from the Stelvio teaser and put them into a homemade cal teaser?

[Snowman]

With the EFI and a few tweeks I am sure MG can make the V100 motor do and feel any way they want to. Triumph do it with the 120, with the Scrambler, Thruxton, T120, Bobber and Streetmaster.

[Bpreynolds2]

With the EFI and a few tweeks I am sure MG can make the V100 motor do and feel any way they want to. Triumph do it with the 120, with the Scrambler, Thruxton, T120, Bobber and Streetmaster.

Very true.  I previously owned a Scrambler XE and then later a T120, both having the same engine and very greatly different character.

[sgl0226]

Looks like the California is coming back. 

[Moparnut72]

I saw that on Utube a ways back. Looks like a V100 motor photo shopped into a 1400 chassis. Has 1400 mufflers, dashboard, shocks among others. Wishfully thinking, maybe down the road though. Too late for me though, I am not buying anymore new motorcycles and would be too heavy anyway.
kk

[Bulldog9]

Very Poor Render............. .. Anyone else HATE these renderings that pollute the internet?

We know it is coming, but until I see it from Guzzi, it's all speculation and blaa blaa.

[moto-uno]

  Be careful what you think "Moparnut72" 

[Dirk_S]

sgl0226, you fell for what looks like an Oberdan Bezzi concept. The guy has been around for a long time creating concepts of what-could-bes across various brands. I personally like seeing his various takes. They offer some inspiration for custom work.

[Turin]

It's a photo shopped fantasy, and not a very good one. At least this isn't an AI rendering that almost looks real. Not a fan, It's getting old.

[Kev m]

Not to mention A IF it was coming for 2025, THAT'S something I would have expected to see at EICMA.

[Moparnut72]

Or at least a tease like they did with the Stelvio.
kk

[rocker59]

Very Poor Render............. .. Anyone else HATE these renderings that pollute the internet?

We know it is coming, but until I see it from Guzzi, it's all speculation and blaa blaa.

Yeah, I'd love to take Obi Boy's computer away from him.

[Dirk_S]

Yeah, I'd love to take Obi Boy's computer away from him.

I don’t get the negative response to Bezzi’s concept art. He’s not falsely claiming these are actual models coming out. I absolutely LOVE that we have conceptual artists putting out their own, personal, artistic takes, and subjectively speaking, many of his concepts are pretty good looking and can provide an inspiration for customization. Nothing different than a fashion artist, fan art creator, slash writer (look it up), etc.

Unless one simply feels that most of his concept art—choices that he’s making as an artist independently and creatively—is just crud to look at, I would think his stuff should be appreciated. At the very least, appreciate another human artist out there showing their stuff to the world for you all to consider and talk about ;)

Now—all the noobs and influencers—human or AI—who keep sharing his works and claiming these are actual models? They’re the ones causing that escalating eye twitch you’ve been experiencing over time :D

[blu guzz]

IF you believe these, then the Chrysler 300 is coming back for 25 and the Monte Carlo is coming back too.  Both are dead and buried.

[Moparnut72]

Guess I was all wrong. I didn't realize it was taken from someone else's art work. The title of the UTube was trying to make the viewer believe it was an up and coming model.
kk