2024 V100 Mandello Aviazione Navale

[bronzestar1]

Considering adding one of these to the stable.  Is '23 the first year for this engine in the Mandello?  The only thing I've seen that's an issue is with some kind of alternator seal, causes a very slight oil leak down the right side of the back of the engine?  Fixable under warranty of course, but wondering how prevalent an issue it is?  I love this limited edition bike, being somewhat of a "tribute" bike to Carlo Guzzi's time in the Italian Navy's Aviation unit in WWI.  The gray paint, roundel insignia at the back of the tank,and the wolf's head decal at the back are all a tribute to the Navy's F-35Bs.

'Course I love a bunch of other things about this bike too, like the adjustable windscreen and side vents, cruise control, TPMS sensors, single-sided swingarm, nice TFT display, throttle by wire, integrated riding modes, side exhaust ports, etc.  Would make a nice step-cousin to the V7... 

[twowheeladdict]

Why don't you already have this bike in the garage?  Life is too short to worry about nit picky things. 

I really like the look of that bike also.  Both of my Moto Guzzis are limited editions. 

But, I am still trying to avoid liquid cooled bikes as much as possible. 

[Dave Swanson]

Yes, 2023 was the first year for the V100.

Buy it and don't worry. 

[Gliderjohn]

There have been some relatively easy fix recalls of mostly minor in nature. Matt, the NM Rep has one and have met a couple of others in the area that now have them. I have asked and all have said outside of the recalls they have had no assembly or other issues with there bikes and all love them. Plug and play so far.
GliderJohn

[Huzo]

When you buy a new one, you get a warranty but not a guarantee…

[Chuck in Indiana]

There was one at the Kentucky rally last year, and I thought I looked good on it.  Then I had an attack of common sense and realized the AeroLario would see me out.

[azccj]

For just $500 more you can get the S version which has the nice ohlins suspension and two tone paint job. Much better value in my opinion. But to each his own.

[twowheeladdict]

For just $500 more you can get the S version which has the nice ohlins suspension and two tone paint job. Much better value in my opinion. But to each his own.

Manufacturers always frustrate me with their choices.  Car manufacturers I have looked at won't provide adjustable lumbar support until you upgrade to leather seating.

Motorcycle manufacturers don't offer enough colors and or the color in the features I want. 


Even Harley who offers the most colors for each model and also offers blacked out or chrome choses one color that they will only offer in chrome and another they will only offer in blacked out. 

Moto Guzzi should have offered all colors in the S, and made the special edition an S model. 

[Moparnut72]

I have a Navale, it is the model that really caught my attention. I don't really care if it is a special edition or not but the reasons for it are kind of cool. It has all the features of the 'S' except for the suspension. Mine rides a bit stiffly but with all my camping gear loaded on it gets quite smooth. I haven't tried adjusting the dampening yet, I wanted to get some mileage on it first to get everything broken in. I have only 3,500 miles on it so far. The poor V7lll has really taken a back seat.
kk

[bronzestar1]

I put a deposit down on a '24 Navale from the same dealer where I got my '23 V7 SE.  Total discounts were $2800, so I went ahead and ordered the Mistral slip-on muffler from AF1 as well.  I'm a sucker for a Guzzi tribute bike like this, which is why I got it over a green and black V100 S.  I work in foreign military sales for the USAF, and Italy was one of the original partner nations for the F-35, so I like that link to this bike, in addition to all the Carlo Guzzi and naval aviation ties as well. 

[ridingron]

I understand the sentiment for the tribute/special edition bikes. I just can't get past the battleship grey paint. On cars or trucks either. 

[John A]

I like the grey. And it’s one of those colors that doesn’t show dirt. I got a ‘24 Honda Odyssey that is grey blue with black trim and it always looks clean. I should have a matching Guzzi…

[bronzestar1]

I like the grey. And it’s one of those colors that doesn’t show dirt. I got a ‘24 Honda Odyssey that is grey blue with black trim and it always looks clean. I should have a matching Guzzi…

Yes, you should!  I had a Shelby GT350 for a while, had a Sportster 883R with a 1450 kit in it at the same time.  Bought some extra parts and had the Sportster painted to match the Shelby, down to the same black for the wheels and red for the calipers...

[MGrego]

" The only thing I've seen that's an issue is with some kind of alternator seal, causes a very slight oil leak down the right side of the back of the engine?  Fixable under warranty of course, but wondering how prevalent an issue it is?  "

I followed all the usual forums for a year or so before buying mine.  I read a few reports of bikes that had improperly crimped radiator hose clamps and had minor coolant leaks.  Apparently not easy to get to to replace.

Also, there were recalls or "service campaigns" on some of the "non-S" V100's that had the rear shock improperly installed, and another one to replace the clutch actuator seals.

Other than some random one off's, II haven't heard of any endemic problems with the V100's. 

[bronzestar1]

" The only thing I've seen that's an issue is with some kind of alternator seal, causes a very slight oil leak down the right side of the back of the engine?  Fixable under warranty of course, but wondering how prevalent an issue it is?  "

I followed all the usual forums for a year or so before buying mine.  I read a few reports of bikes that had improperly crimped radiator hose clamps and had minor coolant leaks.  Apparently not easy to get to to replace.

Also, there were recalls or "service campaigns" on some of the "non-S" V100's that had the rear shock improperly installed, and another one to replace the clutch actuator seals.

Other than some random one off's, II haven't heard of any endemic problems with the V100's. 

I did see a YT video about a coolant leak, and one about a rear shock bushing.  Those bikes must've been made on a Monday!  Hasn't scared me off though, I should be picking up the bike tomorrow. 

[guzziart]

I should be picking up the bike tomorrow.

Awesome, enjoy!
Did your dealer have any '24 v85's?  Just curious.
Art

[bronzestar1]

Trailered the bike home today...pictures don't do the V100 any justice, it's a beautiful bike!  I have a set of Hella dual disc horns and engine guards to put on, and should have a Mistral slip-on muffler by the time I get around to installing those things (going out of town for the next 5 days).  Heck, I haven't even started the bike yet!  Looks like we're going to get some rain, got it inside my storage unit and returned the trailer just in time...

[bronzestar1]

Awesome, enjoy!
Did your dealer have any '24 v85's?  Just curious.
Art

Doesn't appear that they have any '24 V85s, several '23s with some good discounts though...

https://www.motorichmond.com/--xallinventory?am=Moto%20Guzzi&make=Moto%20Guzzi&category=motorcycle%20/%20scooter&pg=1&sortby=Year|desc

[twowings]

Awesome, enjoy!
Did your dealer have any '24 v85's?  Just curious.
Art

According to Piaggio, there are no US-Market 2024 V85TT....they will be sold here as 2025 MY, supposedly arriving in August.

[bronzestar1]

Found this pic of the first Italian F-35B, highlighted several items that are on the Aviazione Navale.  Guzzi got this one right!

[blu guzz]

MG must be monitoring the left over situation much more closely than they did 20 years ago when brand new 3 year old bikes were not rare.  Better for dealers not to be carrying new/old bikes for such a long time.

[bronzestar1]

More tinkering...removed the rear passenger grab handles, will fill those holes with something.  I didn't like how were sort of hanging out back, like the engines on the Star Trek Enterprise. 





Also was able to remove the dB killer on a Mistral slip-on muffler I ordered.  Needed one of those torx security bits (T25), and had to use a small 1/4" wrench to turn the bit due to limited space, but it's off now, and ready for the Ago headers and y-pipe.





When I was removing the OEM exhaust system, I remembered reading where some folks bottomed out the catalytic converter support bolt.  There is definitely a gap on that bolt, and depending on how everything lines up (or not) with the Ago y-pipe, might have to visit my local hardware store and get a rubber grommet, spacers, washers, and a shorter M8 allen head bolt. 



 

Was able to remove the heat shields, O2 sensors, and exhaust stud bolts, and off she came as a 1-piece unit.  Pretty impressive, minimizes the amount of hardware you'd need to connect the downpipes to the cat, and so on.  Since the Ago kit has two header pipes and a y-pipe, I'm expecting the installation of those parts to go pretty smoothly,  I jus have to remember to twist the O2 sensor wires so when I tighten them they unwind. 



 

[Dave Swanson]

I'm following your exhaust journey with interest. 

Although I must say that the V100 is the first new Guzzi I have ever owned that is absolutely spot on from the factory.  It fuels so flawlessly and sounds so good box stock I would not want to touch a thing for fear it might never be this perfect again. 

[bronzestar1]

I'm following your exhaust journey with interest. 

Although I must say that the V100 is the first new Guzzi I have ever owned that is absolutely spot on from the factory.  It fuels so flawlessly and sounds so good box stock I would not want to touch a thing for fear it might never be this perfect again.

I was thinking of doing an exhaust comparison with the stock exhaust / Mistral muffler with and without the dB killer installed / Ago headers + y-pipe with the Mistral muffler with and without dB killers, but that's as far as I got with that thought.  When I picked up my '23 V7, I had the dealer install the Ago mufflers + open airbox mod + UPMAP tune, so I had no idea what it sounded like stock or how it rode, just figured those things would definitely make it sound better and perform better than stock.  I haven't even started the V100 yet, so nothing to compare it to in that respect either, other than what I've watched on YouTube.  I should have the Ago headers and y-pipe today, so I'm hoping to have a fully functional exhaust system on the bike in the next day or two.  I'll make a video once it's done, and post a link.  From my experience with the Agos on my V7, it seems to me that Agostini is to Guzzi what Termignoni is to Ducati, they just sound so good together!   

[MGrego]

Are you planning on re-mapping the ECU for the new exhaust, if so how ??  Or do you think the ECU will trim to the new exhaust ?

I'm with Mr. Swanson on this one, I'd be afraid to customize the exhaust...  Curious to hear about your results and hopefully good !

[Moparnut72]

Mine runs perfectly, I am not touching a thing. My V7lll will stumble when starting when it is extremely hot and only under certain circumstances and only does it once. I am not touching it either even though I am pretty sure how to cure it. My 1400 had issues but MG seems to have figured everything out on newer models.
kk

[Huzo]

I dunno…
There’s an elephant in the room and for me it’s the underdone front fairing, you can put a barn door transparent screen onto what’s already there, but the visual balance is slightly askew.
Looks like a 600 screen on a 1000 bike.
I’ll bet the next incarnations have larger ones.

[bronzestar1]

Are you planning on re-mapping the ECU for the new exhaust, if so how ??  Or do you think the ECU will trim to the new exhaust ?

I'm with Mr. Swanson on this one, I'd be afraid to customize the exhaust...  Curious to hear about your results and hopefully good !

I put the Ago pipes and the uncorked Mistral muffler on yesterday, and this setup is LOUD.  I'll get a new allen head bolt and put the dB killer back in, and see if that tones it down a bit.  I don't have any immediate plans to change the map, depends on how the bike runs (I still haven't ridden it yet).  When I put the full-length uncorked Ago mufflers on my V7 Special Edition, I had an UPMAP tune installed at the same time.  Even though the SE came with Arrow mufflers, they were still too quiet for my liking, so I went with the uncorked reverse cone Agos, and it sounds like a proper Guzzi now.  Sound and exhaust looks are very subjective, and from videos I've seen on the stock V100, it's too quiet, and I'm not a fan of the OEM muffler either.       

[bronzestar1]

I dunno…
There’s an elephant in the room and for me it’s the underdone front fairing, you can put a barn door transparent screen onto what’s already there, but the visual balance is slightly askew.
Looks like a 600 screen on a 1000 bike.
I’ll bet the next incarnations have larger ones.

I think there are larger aftermarket screens for the bike (at least on AF1's website), and when raised, should give more protection than the OEM screen.  Even though this bike is supposed to be a "sport-tourer", I'm not into touring at all, so the smaller sport-oriented windscreen works and looks appropriate to me. 

[Moparnut72]

I went a bit of a different way. After trying a little bit taller screen I found that turbulence was still there. Not really buffeting but was still bothersome to me. I tried the bike with no screen at all. Very clean air but still took the wind pressure off my chest. I then made a cover for the front of the body work. The shield raising and lowering mechanism had to be removed. I also went with bar end mirrors to help with clean air. I am very happy with the bike I can ride for hours with little discomfort. My only soreness is my in my legs due to the higher pegs. More of an age issue than anything else.
kk




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