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Fuel line release tool
« on: September 26, 2024, 10:38:15 AM »
 Anyone using this handy little tool from Amazon?   I have looked  into several tools for working in the small space this might do it?

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Re: Fuel line release tool
« Reply #1 on: September 26, 2024, 10:49:42 AM »
I use a screwdriver or long nose pliers.

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Re: Fuel line release tool
« Reply #2 on: September 26, 2024, 11:03:58 AM »
If you just slide the tank rearwards 2” and place a wooden block under the rear mount, there’s more than enough room.
The tool is a nifty piece of kit though, I just never bothered getting one.

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Re: Fuel line release tool
« Reply #3 on: September 26, 2024, 11:07:33 AM »
If you just slide the tank rearwards 2” and place a wooden block under the rear mount, there’s more than enough room.
The tool is a nifty piece of kit though, I just never bothered getting one.

I know this and still struggle with getting the connection undone.  For myself and the benefit of others struggle I bring the benefit of this tool forward. Some of us have more difficult of less compliant fuel line fitting issues and if this saves "breakage" -  it is worth talking about.
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Re: Fuel line release tool
« Reply #4 on: September 26, 2024, 11:24:51 AM »
Spray a bit of silicone helps
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Re: Fuel line release tool
« Reply #5 on: September 26, 2024, 12:28:52 PM »
I’ve had one of those for a long time and they really help getting lines off of barbed fittings. When you pull on the line, it grabs the barb tighter. The tool pushes it off, putting the force where it need to be.  I usually don’t have to cut the line if it’s really stuck. It’s handy when you want to spread things as well. Good tool.
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Re: Fuel line release tool
« Reply #6 on: September 26, 2024, 01:13:37 PM »
I’ve had one of those for a long time and they really help getting lines off of barbed fittings. When you pull on the line, it grabs the barb tighter. The tool pushes it off, putting the force where it need to be.  I usually don’t have to cut the line if it’s really stuck. It’s handy when you want to spread things as well. Good tool.

Thanks for your input John.  I've looked at lots of devices but this seems to be able to fit our exact need to release the hose from the fitting from all those I have seen advertised that look much too large to fit into the space. Mine is on the way.
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Re: Fuel line release tool
« Reply #7 on: September 26, 2024, 05:25:00 PM »
The trick is to drop the pressure
Disconnect electrical to the pump
try to start the bike, the line pressure will drop to zero as soon as the engine fires up
then you can release the fitting with just your fingers.
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Re: Fuel line release tool
« Reply #8 on: September 26, 2024, 06:14:54 PM »
The trick is to drop the pressure
Disconnect electrical to the pump
try to start the bike, the line pressure will drop to zero as soon as the engine fires up
then you can release the fitting with just your fingers.

Not so in my case.  I did that twice and it was still very hard to release.
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Re: Fuel line release tool
« Reply #9 on: September 26, 2024, 09:43:05 PM »
Mike...here's the set I had found for disconnecting the fuel lines with minimal effort, the green one fits the Guzzi's perfectly.

https://www.amazon.com/Disconnect-Uncoupling-Molybdenum-Universal-Petrol/dp/B0B1Z49SJ8



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Re: Fuel line release tool
« Reply #10 on: September 27, 2024, 12:26:28 AM »
The trick is to drop the pressure
Disconnect electrical to the pump
try to start the bike, the line pressure will drop to zero as soon as the engine fires up
then you can release the fitting with just your fingers.






The tool is not for the quick disconnect fuel lines, only the barbed fittings
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Re: Fuel line release tool
« Reply #11 on: September 27, 2024, 03:51:22 AM »
For plain cut "rubber" hose ends I use the Motion Pro hose removal tool. It's really meant for larger hoses, coolant or oil ones, but if it fits into the space then it works on fuel lines too.
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Re: Fuel line release tool
« Reply #12 on: September 27, 2024, 08:05:05 AM »
I’ve had one of those for a long time and they really help getting lines off of barbed fittings. When you pull on the line, it grabs the barb tighter. The tool pushes it off, putting the force where it need to be.  I usually don’t have to cut the line if it’s really stuck. It’s handy when you want to spread things as well. Good tool.

They are surprisingly useful for the old fashioned barbed hose fittings.  They've been made by Lisle, an American tool company since 1903.  See: https://www.lislecorp.com/specialty-tools/hose-remover-pliers
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Re: Fuel line release tool
« Reply #13 on: September 27, 2024, 08:17:13 AM »
Looks like a handy tool. I never had a problem with fuel lines under petcocks but the line at the front of the V85 tank was an SOB. No room to work. I ended up using screwdrivers to pry it off.

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Re: Fuel line release tool
« Reply #14 on: September 27, 2024, 08:33:22 AM »
On my '03 v11 Lemans, I always wondered if this will be the time I break one of the plastic 90 ells coming out of the pump housing.  Kiwi Roy is spot eliminating the line pressure first, which I'd do but it was always nerve racking fiddling with 20 year old plastic where a slight lack of finese leads to bigger problems.  Oh well, the v11 is now in the hands of a new caretaker.

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Re: Fuel line release tool
« Reply #15 on: September 27, 2024, 09:50:59 AM »
Mike...here's the set I had found for disconnecting the fuel lines with minimal effort, the green one fits the Guzzi's perfectly.

https://www.amazon.com/Disconnect-Uncoupling-Molybdenum-Universal-Petrol/dp/B0B1Z49SJ8

Thanks Paul,  I've heard about these but never actually viewed them or could find them online for sale, the picture tells me the pliers I ordered work in in the same fashion!! * Arthritic old fingers crossed!  Hehehe... :grin:
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Re: Fuel line release tool
« Reply #16 on: September 27, 2024, 11:28:38 AM »
I also misread the OP. I thought it was about the QD in the FI bikes. :embarrassed:

HF sells a set of long needle nose like pliers designed for gripping fuel line size hoses. Work just fine for me, better than the flat jaw extra long needle nose pliers that crush the hose.

https://www.harborfreight.com/3-piece-long-reach-hose-grip-pliers-37909.html?_br_psugg_q=hose+pliers

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Re: Fuel line release tool
« Reply #17 on: September 27, 2024, 12:51:48 PM »
They've been made by Lisle, an American tool company since 1903.  See: https://www.lislecorp.com/specialty-tools/hose-remover-pliers

Note that though Lisle is an American company, most of their products, including the current production of this tool, are made in China.
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Re: Fuel line release tool
« Reply #18 on: September 27, 2024, 03:50:01 PM »
Note that though Lisle is an American company, most of their products, including the current production of this tool, are made in China.

My newest one is proudly stamped "Made in the USA" and I bought it just last year, when I gave my old one to a BMW neighbor.  He was having a hard time pulling hoses.  It's not often you can show a BMW guy a new tool.  Maybe this tool is too cheap for them (ha!).








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Re: Fuel line release tool
« Reply #19 on: September 27, 2024, 05:22:06 PM »
On my '03 v11 Lemans, I always wondered if this will be the time I break one of the plastic 90 ells coming out of the pump housing.  Kiwi Roy is spot eliminating the line pressure first, which I'd do but it was always nerve racking fiddling with 20 year old plastic where a slight lack of finese leads to bigger problems.  Oh well, the v11 is now in the hands of a new caretaker.

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Re: Fuel line release tool
« Reply #20 on: September 28, 2024, 05:19:20 AM »
Pre-emptive replacement of the aged plastic elbows is a great peace of mind job as once they crack you have a fuel leak! They are an issue on MV Agustas where I do a lot of my riding these days and metal replacements are a popular permanent fix.
I did not know metal elbows were available for those nor the degree of difficulty replacing them.  Had I known, I would have replaced them in '20 when I had the thing apart for a fuel filter & hoses and base gasket.
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Update: Oh, I just noticed my pic doesn't feature the ells I'm yakking about...they're on the outward facing side...duh!
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Re: Fuel line release tool
« Reply #21 on: September 28, 2024, 01:13:47 PM »
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Mine is on the way.
SV, please let us know how the tool fits.  I need to fix the fuel guage on my Norge and bought a spare connector just in case.
The tool would be cheap insurance.

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Re: Fuel line release tool
« Reply #22 on: September 28, 2024, 02:25:47 PM »
I also misread the OP. I thought it was about the QD in the FI bikes. :embarrassed:
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Re: Fuel line release tool
« Reply #23 on: September 28, 2024, 06:01:21 PM »
I’m confused, isn’t it about the QD connector though?? Sempervee?
If it is, the best tool for that is the one mentioned by PJPR01 as it helps to squeeze and push the female part of the QD towards the elbow to release the connection.
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