New Moto Guzzi Door Mats Available Now
some V100 info
Let me make a prediction. Won't happen. I'm still waiting for the Ippogriffo..
Buyers don't all want the same thing. I likely wouldn't have bought a liquid-cooled V7. It being air-cooled was a major selling point over a Kawasaki Z900RS for me. Doesn't mean I don't like the liquid-cooled V100 though, as it's a much different type of bike and the liquid-cooling suits it better IMO.
I think the v85 has sold far better than Huzo seems to want to give credit to. Huzo said, "I’ll concede that not all buyers want the same thing, but even if 3% of the motorcycle buying public wanted a liquid cooled 850 cc Guzzi, that would still translate out to 100’s of thousands of orders."What??? I guess, even though it makes very little sense to say so, you are using all motorcycle sales world wide for this? But even using your numbers, there is NO WAY Guzzi is going to get orders for "100s of thousands" for an 850 liquid cooled twin! Seriously, think about what your saying!
I’ll concede that not all buyers want the same thing, but even if 3% of the motorcycle buying public wanted a liquid cooled 850 cc Guzzi, that would still translate out to 100’s of thousands of orders.
Congratulations, you've qualified as the owner of the most ridiculous hyperbole ever thrust upon WG members.For this completely made up statistic coupled with a pure fantasy that is contradicted by the entire production history of the brand, you'll receive a lifetime supply of "WTF"!
Yeah I always back off a bit when you weigh in Kev. Sure the numbers can be hacked back into reality to protect the innocent and I’ll wear that.Can you give some consideration to my point though, I guess if I have to be held to realistic margins, my point is that the buying public is so large, that a relatively small advance percentage wise in sales, will add up to a large increase in potential orders. It can be in the positive or a couple of poor decisions can send you under.As for the production history of the brand, there was a time when they were pretty much on the skids but a redirecting of course has boosted sales and profits.
For starters mate it’s “you’re” not “your”, but we‘ll get back to that.I know how well the V85 sold and I did my bit there. I do not think that MG could cope with one tenth of that demand but what I contend is this…For every new bike you see on the road that someone has paid hard earned money for, there are a LOT of bikes the buyer chose not to get and we’ll never know why they went elsewhere, but my point was and still is that over a massive target audience, you only have to capture a trifling percentage increase in hits, and that is a massive increase in orders.Strangely, it’s a lot like elections….. Oh and BTW.I’ll think about what I’m saying if you think about what you’re typing, the only bit of your post that wasn’t riddled with grammatical errors was between the quotation marks.I’ve survived on this forum because I DO think about what I’m saying, it can be a slippery slope BC.
Respect is earned, as the saying goes, perhaps at some point I'll get there.
Who else would like to see a single using one barrel of the 850 oriented like the old Guzzi single with a balance shaft and chain or belt drive??Not that it would do me any good as my eyes no longer support riding!!!
Not so much a single as a 650cc version (reduced stroke?) of the V85 or V7 released for the Australian market so that our learner riders could start out on a Guzzi. Heck, they even built such a machine in the '90s called the NTX650 with a US 8 gallon (30 litre) tank.It would introduce new riders to the characteristics of an air-cooled, 90 degree V-twin and might even build some brand loyalty.
Something I noticed in some of the EICMA photos is that the heated handgrips icon is on for one of the V7 models. I wonder if this means the OEM accessory heated grips will finally be released for the V7 850.
Hamlin has a fantastic mod for the V7 single disk that does everything you just described without the added weight. Must be experienced to be believed.He really is a master at that stuff.
What is the modification ?
Seriously, think about what your saying!
What buyers want is an 850 version of the new liquid motor in a suitably V7 sized chassis, proper Ohlins inspired front end (or the actual thing), twin discs, a wholesale reduction in the electronic gimmickery that has you taking the thing back to the dealer, no stupid “aggressive” straight line/slash cut styling and that utterly chunder inducing cocked up tail piece that is just garbage.