New V7 Sport

[kingoffleece]

Come on, man.  Where's the sense of humor?

[Bulldog9]

Well as a tip of the hat..
The 750 was a V7
The 850 thing was a V9
Put this in the middle and call it the V8

How about they do the paint scheme of the 1000S and call it the 850S?

Guzzi should pay me for my ideas............. 

On the TBW, I have to agree with others that I prefer cable, but this is the trend and way ahead, especially when adding things like cornering ABS, ride modes, cruise control, etc.

I'm kind of excited about the future, and am researching if the Metal Fenders from the V7ii and iii used on the Stornello and Milano (? the grey tank) are a simple bolt up to the most recent 850 setup......

[Dirk_S]

I’m kind of excited about the future, and am researching if the Metal Fenders from the V7ii and iii used on the Stornello and Milano (? the grey tank) are a simple bolt up to the most recent 850 setup......

I was going to share the link to MAS Engineering’s website, the manufacturer of the aluminum mudguards that Guzzi used for their various bikes. MAS advertised mudguards for the V7 I-II-III and separate mudguards for the V7 E5, so I don’t think they’re direct fitment. Unfortunately, it appears their website is down, and I think it’s been down for a while (I vaguely remember checking some time back, maybe within the past 15 months). I just reached out to them through their Facebook and Instagram pages to see if they’re still open for business.

Come on, man.  Where's the sense of humor?

I was smiling while I was typing my response. And puking in my mouth.

[kingoffleece]

and there you have it

[Buddy Shagmore]

Former '10 V7 rider here, and a V11 Ballabio before that. Currently on a Triumph 1200 XC Scrambler. It is a great bike, but is feeling too tall and a bit top heavy at my age, 72.
So I am looking to sell that and downsize.
I just watched a Youtube from the English bloke with the heavy accent, The Bingley Wheeler. He reminded me that
with the V7, the character is the main draw to the brand. That is something I am in total agreement with. No need to preach to the choir here.
I've been considering the V85 Strada (so far, none in stock here), R12nineT, Svartpilen 801 (Also not in stock), and now the current V7.
I've only test ridden the R12. It was very comfy and powerful, but had a woeful excuse for a suspension.
Thus am considering the R12nineT, which has a good suspension, but costs about $18-19K. That's a big pill to swallow.
So I am looking at the affordable V7 again. I like everything about the new Sport version, except the bar end mirrors. Could I swap those out for traditionals?
Either that, or the regular Stone in yellow.
The Svart has a fully adjustable suspension (big +), but I hear of possible issues with it's KTM sourced engine (camshafts), being a concern. The Svart has it's own thing going though, it's unlike anything out there.
Likely I will go with a V7 variant. I think it's great that MG has kept forging ahead with their classic beauty of a motorcycle.

[bronzestar1]

Former '10 V7 rider here, and a V11 Ballabio before that. Currently on a Triumph 1200 XC Scrambler. It is a great bike, but is feeling too tall and a bit top heavy at my age, 72.
So I am looking to sell that and downsize..

Since you currently have a Triumph, have you considered something like a Triumph Street Twin?  I had a 2018 ST, with a set of V&H mufflers with the dB killers removed, cat-delete, 6-piston front brake caliper, and a few other mods.  My daughter got her MC license a while ago, and loved riding that ST around in the neighborhood.  She wasn't intimidated by it all, fit her perfectly (seat, foot controls, bars, etc), and she could move it around easily.  Comparing my ST to the '23 V7 850 I have now, the ST seemed to accelerate faster, could get up to 100 without too much effort.  And it definitely got better mpg than the V7.   

[Buddy Shagmore]

I had a '16 Street Twin. I had to put risers on the bars to make it easier on my old back.
It was a fine bike, but I always wondered, why they didn't give it a 6th gear?
I sold it to get the Scrambler 1200.
I love Triumphs, but feel it is time to try MG again. I really like the character of the V7.

[Bulldog9]

I had a '16 Street Twin. I had to put risers on the bars to make it easier on my old back.
It was a fine bike, but I always wondered, why they didn't give it a 6th gear?
I sold it to get the Scrambler 1200.
I love Triumphs, but feel it is time to try MG again. I really like the character of the V7.

The V7 850 is the best iteration of the new V7's. Power is surprising, and the work on the chassis and frame have been excellent.  Will be interesting to see what this new 'Sport' and the latest TBW models bring to the table. I wish I didn't like my Stornello and GRiSO so much.............. Both are rock solid reliability wise, paid off, and perfectly dialed in/modified to fit me.  Still, the new Sport is mighty tasty looking.

I was struggling with the GRiSO the last couple of years. I already had Ohnur's risers (1/2" block under the stock risers), and 1" Knight Pegs, but found the forward lean and wide grips of the 1100 too much, and after an hour (which is NOT enough) combined with the very stiff clutch lever, my left arm was searing pain. After great success with adding a set of Mana Bars to the 1200 Sport, I added a pair to the GRiSO and so far so good.

[Buddy Shagmore]

My local dealer is getting a Stone Ten in shortly. I may pick it up this weekend. I really dig the look! Never had bar end mirrors before...not sure how I might get on with those. Since I occasionally split lanes, I don't like the increased overall width they create. But I'll be a good sport and give em a try. Otherwise, the Ten is the V7 variant that appeals the most to me. Been off the brand for 10 years. I'm ready to come back.

[twowheeladdict]

My local dealer is getting a Stone Ten in shortly. I may pick it up this weekend. I really dig the look! Never had bar end mirrors before...not sure how I might get on with those. Since I occasionally split lanes, I don't like the increased overall width they create. But I'll be a good sport and give em a try. Otherwise, the Ten is the V7 variant that appeals the most to me. Been off the brand for 10 years. I'm ready to come back.

Some bar end mirrors can be rotated in so they don't stick out any further than a bar end weight.  Not sure on the Guzzi, but if you are splitting that close with moving cars you might want to rethink doing so. 

When I have ridden in California I stayed off the highways so I only filtered to the front at lights instead of splitting lanes with moving cars. 

[kidsmoke]

Never had bar end mirrors before...not sure how I might get on with those. Since I occasionally split lanes, I don't like the increased overall width they create.

Some bar end mirrors can be rotated in so they don't stick out any further than a bar end weight. 

case in point

[kingoffleece]

I'm not a fan of bar ends.  Too much movement for me.  YMMV.

[kidsmoke]

I'm not a fan of bar ends.  Too much movement for me.  YMMV.

I've had several variations. These are 100% rock solid, as were the Napoleons on my LeMans. All others were difficult to live with.

[twowheeladdict]

I'm not a fan of bar ends.  Too much movement for me.  YMMV.

???  You mean you kept accidently bumping them?  Or are you meaning not a clear image in the mirror?

The Napoleons I have on my V7III are rubber mounted.  No movement for me. 

[kingoffleece]

No, I mean with them being way out at the end of the lever they travel the longest distance when the bars move.  Just me-it's distracting.  I realize others are not affected.

[Buddy Shagmore]

So I got a lead on a Stone Ten in AZ. I am in CA. Does anyone know if V7's are 50 state legal?
Registration here is a bitch.

[Kev m]

So I got a lead on a Stone Ten in AZ. I am in CA. Does anyone know if V7's are 50 state legal?
Registration here is a bitch.

Unless something has changed Guzzis have been 50 state for decades.

Even my 2000 Jackal had EVAP canisters.

But obviously confirm that to be safe

[Buddy Shagmore]

Welp my local dealer gave me $1K off sticker, plus $500 rebate on a new Stone Ten.
I rode it about 20 miles home as it was getting dark. What a beautiful machine! The bar end mirrors are not so bad. Let the break- in miles begin...

[della moto]

I talked to my local dealer the other day and they said pre-orders for the V7 Sport are open March 1st w/ a non-refundable deposit (no thanks) and that they wouldn't hit the shores here in the U.S. until 90 days later, but not to expect them until July. I know Guzzis force you to slow down, but andiamo, guys. I'd really like to see these in person. The green really pops and the gray is classy. I wonder how the fueling/throttle response is going to be with the new ride by wire, ecu, and ride modes.

[Dr. Enzo Toma]

Yeah, that's a bummer. Unfortunately in Illinois the dealer can keep a deposit without delivering the product, as it's earnest money. One exception may be if they fail to secure financing for you. Those type of things vary by state, for example in California the dealer cannot keep the deposit and I believe they can only hold up to a 2.5% deposit of the motorcycle's price.

[kingoffleece]

Why is anyone worried?  There are always bikes left over.  Heck, one can still get a new Oreo V85.

[Dr. Enzo Toma]

Why is anyone worried?  There are always bikes left over.  Heck, one can still get a new Oreo V85.

An excellent point. Moto Guzzi even extended their 100th anniversary Centenario bikes from 2021 into 2022... which was a relief to me when I was looking to buy mine.

[bad Chad]

What's the deposit, I wouldn't expect it to be much, you can order $100,000plus cars for a $100 down.

[inditx]

Ride what you like and like what you ride.

I’ve owned lotsa bikes, let’s just leave it at that.

But I long since gave up on MG putting out high HP and high torque models with very light weight chassis. Yes the V100 Mandello looks cool and probably runs well but let’s face it, it’s not gonna win track days against others in the same displacement category.

They are what they are so I guess I’ve stopped comparing specs to other manufacturers that aren’t MG.
Call it character, boutique, unique or whatever but please accept them for what they are.

Nuff said, RideOn!
inditx

[Huzo]

Yep..
As soon as you start caring about comparisons, you’re rooted, (Australian slang for relatively devoid of viable options).
Buy it on it’s merits, love it for what it is and don’t decry it for it’s perceived shortcomings, because unless you buy a Suzuki Hyabusa, Kawasaki ZXR 1400 or similar, there’ll always be someone who can waste your ass.
The KPI that I use these days to gauge how desireable my bike is..?
I just look at and ask myself..
“If that was someone else’s bike, would I wish it was mine.?

V85 = Ummmm yes
Norge= Hell yeah…!

[faffi]

I agree in general, but the way I see this discussion, is that some of us feel that Guzzi already have in-house the means to make the new V7 Sport better without adding much cost. The 85TT engine is there, and fitting a fully adjustable fork along with ditto shock absorbers and the dual instruments of the V7 Special would have made it a true Guzzi. Still not a performance machine compared to a Gixxer in any way, but a performance machine in the Guzzi V7 range. YMMV.

[kingoffleece]

Dust you on the straights only.  Corners are where it matters if you're that way.  Track days?  Get a track bike.  My good buddy runs a track day school in CA.  1000's only win on straightaways.  The smaller stuff will dust them in the tight stuff.

Haven't we all seen the vids of a Goldwing rider leaving the fast kids on the Ducatis in the dust at The Dragon?  But I digress............ .....

[Kev m]

I agree in general, but the way I see this discussion, is that some of us feel that Guzzi already have in-house the means to make the new V7 Sport better without adding much cost.

Careful with both, those statements are highly subjective.

would have made it a true Guzzi.

The most BS term used in discussions like this, period.

[inditx]

Reminds me of the saying that it’s more fun to ride a slow bike fast than a fast bike slow or something of that ilk.

Fleece is right, handling is where most if not all Guzzis shine.
inditx

[Huzo]

The thing that allows emotive terms like “true” when referring to things like bikes, is that they are affairs of the heart and as such, the terms used can be a bit flowery and not necessarily rooted in commonsense fact.
In this context the term”true Guzzi” is describing that which stirs the emotion that drew one into the marque in the first place, warts and all.
Early Guzzi’s can be seen as flawed in several ways and these flaws can be viewed as imperfections, they are being relentlessly designed out over the evolution of the brand, but the risk of the marque becoming featureless and BMW or Honda like, starts to loom large.
Most opinions can be seen as BS when viewed from another’s perspective but an opinion, by definition can never be wrong.