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Re: New V7 Sport
« Reply #210 on: January 10, 2025, 12:11:42 PM »
Careful with both, those statements are highly subjective.


How good it is for us that you are always objective.
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Re: New V7 Sport
« Reply #211 on: January 10, 2025, 12:16:22 PM »
How good it is for us that you are always objective.
Kev is a journalist of some sort, his bread and butter is to foster debate and invite controversy. Not necessarily a bad thing as long as you recognise it for what it is…
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Re: New V7 Sport
« Reply #212 on: January 10, 2025, 12:20:53 PM »
How good it is for us that you are always objective.

No, but when I'm subjective I don't present it like objective truth.

Remember a huge part of this thread has been a ridiculous debate over the name of this bike.
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Re: New V7 Sport
« Reply #213 on: January 10, 2025, 12:45:38 PM »
No, but when I'm subjective I don't present it like objective truth.

Remember a huge part of this thread has been a ridiculous debate over the name of this bike.
The name of the bike is the beginning of getting to know it for some folk and if they lay their money down, they have some say.
Would a Hell’s Angel want his Road King the be known as a “Road Queen” or a “Road Princess” ? The name carries a subliminal connotation that speaks contrary to the desired message.
I contend that is why this thing is not placed between the V7 and the V9 and called the V8.
There would be those that would shun it because “there was only ever ONE V8…!”
But there’d be those who would be drawn to it also for the same reason.  People buy motorcycles as much for the fact that they are a ridiculous choice, by virtue of the fact that they can attract ridicule.
Also note that it has raged for 8 pages and has drawn out posters that are usually quiet, that speaks to the amount of interest in the topic.
That is why we are here at all…
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Re: New V7 Sport
« Reply #214 on: January 10, 2025, 12:50:16 PM »
No, but when I'm subjective I don't present it like objective truth
….and ummm, yes Kev…
You actually do.
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Re: New V7 Sport
« Reply #215 on: January 10, 2025, 01:16:22 PM »
….and ummm, yes Kev…
You actually do.

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Re: New V7 Sport
« Reply #216 on: January 10, 2025, 02:36:37 PM »
Reminds me of the saying that it’s more fun to ride a slow bike fast than a fast bike slow or something of that ilk.

Fleece is right, handling is where most if not all Guzzis shine.
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I'm completely guilty of passing Guzzi by for serious consideration.

It was an FZ rather than a 1200 Sport and FJR instead of a Norge. I read the reviews, loved the look and respected the brand, but the spec sheet and ##'s killed it. Of course not having ever seen a Guzzi dealer or one on the road didn't help.

It was after 8-9 years on the FJR and being bored to tears unless riding at go to jail/morgue speeds, I rode a total of 500 miles my last 2 years of ownership. I started looking for a naked sporting bike (used), discovered the GRiSO, and haven't looked back. The brand but and hit hard

My Guzzi's always draw a crowd, and interest, but no converts. Why? Spec sheets and dealer 'underperformance'.... Will likely stay the same except for the more discerning and I like it that way. Of course I want the brand to be vital and healthy, but enjoy the rarity and uniqueness.

The V85 and V100 have expanded the brand. Many owners are first time buyers. Same with the V7 as well. The SPORT will do well, but it's not a class leader, and who cares. Guzzi finally put a real fork and dual discs on a V7 and other improvements to the line. What are we arguing about?
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Re: New V7 Sport
« Reply #217 on: January 10, 2025, 02:39:49 PM »
Kev is a lot of things, but a journalist he is not.
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Re: New V7 Sport
« Reply #218 on: January 10, 2025, 02:48:30 PM »
Kev is a lot of things, but a journalist he is not.
We’ll see what he says…

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Re: New V7 Sport
« Reply #219 on: January 10, 2025, 03:05:53 PM »
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Re: New V7 Sport
« Reply #220 on: January 10, 2025, 03:35:22 PM »
Proper summary

https://www.rideapart.com/news/742098/2025-moto-guzzi-v7-sport/

Did I miss something? I failed to see anything about how the motorcycle actually works, but perhaps there were more pages that I missed :huh:
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Re: New V7 Sport
« Reply #221 on: January 10, 2025, 03:52:53 PM »
The name of the bike is the beginning of getting to know it for some folk and if they lay their money down, they have some say.
Would a Hell’s Angel want his Road King the be known as a “Road Queen” or a “Road Princess” ? The name carroies a subliminal connotation that speaks contrary to the desired message.
I contend that is why this thing is not placed between the V7 and the V9 and called the V8.
There would be those that would shun it because “there was only ever ONE V8…!”
But there’d be those who would be drawn to it also for the same reason.  People buy motorcycles as much for the fact that they are a ridiculous choice, by virtue of the fact that they can attract ridicule.
Also note that it has raged for 8 pages and has drawn out posters that are usually quiet, that speaks to the amount of interest in the topic.
That is why we are here at all…

It being a "true guzzi" comes from it being made by Moto Guzzi / Piaggio who own the name.  They get to name it what they like, same as Harley-Davidson get to name their bikes what they like, even when it upsets owners of older models - which has happened a lot in the past decade.

Should brands stick to the heritage of a name? That's opinionated and surely they consider it, but the facts are that they've named the models what they've named them and they are what they are.


That Ride Apart article makes no indication of the author having test ridden the new V7 Sport, it reads like someone put together an article based on Moto Guzzi's press release.

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Re: New V7 Sport
« Reply #222 on: January 10, 2025, 08:21:56 PM »
What's the deposit, I wouldn't expect it to be much, you can order $100,000plus cars for a $100 down.

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Re: New V7 Sport
« Reply #223 on: January 10, 2025, 11:43:14 PM »
It's just a motorcycle......... .................
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Re: New V7 Sport
« Reply #224 on: January 12, 2025, 04:06:49 PM »
It's just a motorcycle......... .................
Well yes, that’s demonstrably true..
Does it need to be anything else ?

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Re: New V7 Sport
« Reply #225 on: January 13, 2025, 07:58:19 PM »
This post has devolved oddly---On yer bikes in in yer garage for maintenance!
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Re: New V7 Sport
« Reply #226 on: January 14, 2025, 05:52:23 AM »
Not in my book it doesn't.
New England, PA, WV, and such.  Never seen the bike (any bike) make much difference there where skill comes to the forefront to keep a spirited pace.  The rider is always the deciding factor.  Now, mind, most of what I've seen has proper front and rear setups with proper equipment.
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Re: New V7 Sport
« Reply #227 on: January 14, 2025, 09:30:54 AM »
I didn’t pay attention to the amount of time it took me to read the 8 pages of this thread, but I wish I could get it back.

Silly discussion. Who cares what it’s called? Looks like some nice improvements over my ‘21 Stone, which has repeatedly made me smile for close to 20,000 miles. The cruise control alone would be an attractive upgrade if I didn’t also own a ‘22 V85. Both wonderful bikes, and after owning 65 over the years I’ve figured out what works (for me).

Good job Guzzi. Keep making improvements! And since I also have a “Beverly” In the garage, I’m not the type to get uptight over the use of the “sport” moniker.

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Re: New V7 Sport
« Reply #228 on: January 15, 2025, 05:39:02 PM »
Kev is a lot of things, but a journalist he is not.

Kev is a writer, but not a Journalist/Commentator. He is an industry Repair Manual Writer. Has been in doing so for years.
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Re: New V7 Sport
« Reply #229 on: January 15, 2025, 08:00:22 PM »
Kev is a writer, but not a Journalist/Commentator. He is an industry Repair Manual Writer. Has been in doing so for years.
That’s nice…

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Re: New V7 Sport
« Reply #230 on: January 16, 2025, 08:37:47 AM »

YET.... I do hope it is a sales flop and I can pick one up as a 2 year left over for $3-4K off the MSRP the way I did the Stornello  :cool: :cool: :cool:


This is now my plan.  :thumb:
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Re: New V7 Sport
« Reply #231 on: January 16, 2025, 12:03:33 PM »
As my wife keeps encouraging me to buy a new Guzzi.....possibly my last ever "big" bike, who am I to say she is wrong? I'm going to ask the local dealer if they have any word on when they will be arriving in the UK....
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Re: New V7 Sport
« Reply #232 on: January 17, 2025, 09:08:39 AM »
As my wife keeps encouraging me to buy a new Guzzi.....possibly my last ever "big" bike, who am I to say she is wrong? I'm going to ask the local dealer if they have any word on when they will be arriving in the UK....

Some guys have all the luck!  :popcorn:

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Re: New V7 Sport
« Reply #233 on: January 17, 2025, 01:09:48 PM »
Definitely the most advanced of the small block series, but visually I think the Stornello is still the coolest. And it is fast enough for me.
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Re: New V7 Sport
« Reply #234 on: January 17, 2025, 07:54:32 PM »
As my wife keeps encouraging me to buy a new Guzzi.....possibly my last ever "big" bike, who am I to say she is wrong? I'm going to ask the local dealer if they have any word on when they will be arriving in the UK....

Someone gonna tell him/her the V7 is NOT a "big" bike?  :drool:
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Re: New V7 Sport
« Reply #235 on: January 18, 2025, 02:16:15 AM »
In Norway, we have mopeds, lightweights and heavyweights. Up to 2hp and 50cc, up to 125cc and 15hp, and anything above 125cc and/or 15hp describe what class a bike belong to. In this respect, a V7 is a big bike here 😊
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Re: New V7 Sport
« Reply #236 on: January 18, 2025, 09:16:51 AM »
Like Faffi said, it's all relative.   I still think of anything 750cc or more as a big bike.  Not so much that they are physically big, but they are capable of exceeding the speed and ridding abilities of 90% of all riders.    Bikes and and certainly pickup trucks have gotten absurdly large.
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Re: New V7 Sport
« Reply #237 on: January 18, 2025, 04:05:23 PM »
Like Faffi said, it's all relative.   I still think of anything 750cc or more as a big bike.  Not so much that they are physically big, but they are capable of exceeding the speed and ridding abilities of 90% of all riders.    Bikes and and certainly pickup trucks have gotten absurdly large.

The side effect of trucks growing in size is the gooseneck trailers have to be raised or replaced to be able to tow them level.

When I stated riding a 750 was a big bike.  Eventually they were considered beginner bikes, but now many smaller displacement bikes are becoming popular among both beginners and older riders.
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Re: New V7 Sport
« Reply #238 on: January 18, 2025, 04:22:38 PM »
Observations of a 71-year-old: 

1.As the years pile on, they ALL turn into 'big' bikes.
2. Who is the smarter person? The riders in Asia, South and Central America, Mexico, et. al, who can transport the entire family and assorted livestock down a muddy unpaved track on a $400 125cc moto that can be repaired with common household items OR the riders in North America who spend $20,000+ on an 700+ lb. behemoth with a $1000.00 initial service charge and a 100-year-old engine design?

It's all a matter of perspective.



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Re: New V7 Sport
« Reply #239 on: January 19, 2025, 06:48:40 AM »
Going from my V85TT Adv to the V7 Carbon was a step backwards in technology but a giant leap in ride-ability and access. So much easier to get on/off the bike and maneuver around at lower speed. My joints don't permit extended saddle time anymore so light and fun wins over long distance capability.

In another couple years I'll probably downsize again to a sub 400lb bike. I have a lead on a V50 rescue that could become my next main ride after the V7.

two-wheels is right about 'back in the day'. My buddy rode a RD400 cross country and I bombed around on a 175 2-stroke. It seems like common sense is starting to creep back into motorcycling and while there's still a market for big inch cruisers and hyper-tech adv bikes, the 300-400cc is becoming much more popular - and affordable.
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