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The "1200 Ambassador" lives.
« on: January 01, 2025, 09:43:12 PM »
I've been building this for a customer, starting in March of '21. There have been quite a few delays along the way, but I've finally reached a fairly major milestone. It's fully mocked up, and ran for the first time this afternoon. There's tuning to be done for sure, but that can wait until after it's stripped down, everything made "pretty" and then reassembled for the final time.

I tried to start it for the first time yesterday, but didn't put enough gas in the tank to fill the fuel injection system and run it.  :grin: Oops. Once I realized what the problem was, I put in two more gallons and it fired right up.

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Chassis wiring harness by Gregory Bender and me
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Frame modifications also done by Curtis Fisk
« Last Edit: January 03, 2025, 09:42:54 AM by Antietam Classic Cycle »
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Re: The "1200 Ambassador" lives.
« Reply #1 on: January 01, 2025, 10:20:22 PM »
Sounds great, Charlie.  What are you doing about balancing or return gas on the two sides of the tank...if anything (doesn't really need it, in my opinion)

I really like the interchangeability of parts through the years- I built (and now rebuilding) my Eldo with a similar idea, but not as ambitious.  Mine is a mix of Eldo/Ambo/G5 parts mostly.  No fuel injection. 
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Re: The "1200 Ambassador" lives.
« Reply #2 on: January 01, 2025, 10:28:49 PM »
Sounds great, Charlie.  What are you doing about balancing or return gas on the two sides of the tank...if anything (doesn't really need it, in my opinion)

Nothing. The injection is plumbed the same as a Jackal, so I don't think it'll be an issue.

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Re: The "1200 Ambassador" lives.
« Reply #3 on: January 01, 2025, 11:03:30 PM »
Really cool! I can't wait to see the finished product.
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Re: The "1200 Ambassador" lives.
« Reply #4 on: January 01, 2025, 11:35:47 PM »
Now that's a real frankenbike.
It's got a nice roar.
Curious to see how the engine is held in a loop frame.
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Re: The "1200 Ambassador" lives.
« Reply #5 on: January 02, 2025, 07:41:13 AM »
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Re: The "1200 Ambassador" lives.
« Reply #6 on: January 02, 2025, 09:32:35 AM »
Now that's a real frankenbike.
It's got a nice roar.
Curious to see how the engine is held in a loop frame.

New motor mounting points were welded to the front down tubes of the frame.
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Re: The "1200 Ambassador" lives.
« Reply #7 on: January 02, 2025, 10:01:54 AM »
Very nice!
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Re: The "1200 Ambassador" lives.
« Reply #8 on: January 02, 2025, 10:57:26 AM »
Very cool project.

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Re: The "1200 Ambassador" lives.
« Reply #9 on: January 02, 2025, 11:43:47 AM »
Now you know which retired guy to take your bike to, congrats to the finish(almost).  How many hours in it so far?
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Re: The "1200 Ambassador" lives.
« Reply #10 on: January 02, 2025, 02:41:28 PM »
Now you know which retired guy to take your bike to, congrats to the finish(almost).  How many hours in it so far?

I'm not retired just yet, will be "semi-retiring" at some point in the next year or two. I haven't been keeping a cumulative total of the hours, but just guessing at least 150 of actually doing something, plus probably that much again (non-billable) thinking, planning, searching, etc.

Some photos from last night. Hanging parts to make sure everything still fits, mounting up some DBs to see if anything needs to be changed.











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Re: The "1200 Ambassador" lives.
« Reply #11 on: January 02, 2025, 04:32:51 PM »
I'm not retired just yet, will be "semi-retiring" at some point in the next year or two. I haven't been keeping a cumulative total of the hours, but just guessing at least 150 of actually doing something, plus probably that much again (non-billable) thinking, planning, searching, etc.

Some photos from last night. Hanging parts to make sure everything still fits, mounting up some DBs to see if anything needs to be changed.













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Re: The "1200 Ambassador" lives.
« Reply #12 on: January 02, 2025, 05:20:08 PM »
NICE ! Reminds me of a bulldog or some other kind of Brute.
I hope you’re keeping the tank in that finish as is.
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Re: The "1200 Ambassador" lives.
« Reply #13 on: January 02, 2025, 05:44:51 PM »
Congrats Charlie! I remember seeing that bike a couple years ago when I dropped off my engine and gearbox. Happy to see it running. Looking forward to seeing more pics of its progress.
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Re: The "1200 Ambassador" lives.
« Reply #14 on: January 02, 2025, 05:46:49 PM »
NICE ! Reminds me of a bulldog or some other kind of Brute.
I hope you’re keeping the tank in that finish as is.

No, the tank and all of the other bodywork will be repainted. The tank had a dent that was deep enough that the area was cut out and a new piece welded in. A fair amount of paint has been removed on the underside around the outlets, where new outlets were welded in. Just too much paint missing and grinding/sanding marks present to leave it.
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Re: The "1200 Ambassador" lives.
« Reply #15 on: January 02, 2025, 06:58:38 PM »
That is one sweet ride Charlie. The hard panniers set it right off IMO.

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Re: The "1200 Ambassador" lives.
« Reply #16 on: January 02, 2025, 09:30:39 PM »
Those card catalogs in the background are very cool...
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« Reply #17 on: January 02, 2025, 09:57:05 PM »
Those card catalogs in the background are very cool...

It's actually a bolt bin, built at least 50 years ago by my late father, out of packing crate wood and angle iron. I hope to eventually use it to hold all of my metric hardware as well as the inch hardware.
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Re: The "1200 Ambassador" lives.
« Reply #18 on: January 03, 2025, 07:55:06 AM »
Very nice, loving the concept, and great execution!
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Re: The "1200 Ambassador" lives.
« Reply #19 on: January 03, 2025, 08:05:42 AM »
I love this so much and have followed along as your updates have come...  I have a barn-ish Ambo sitting in my garage with crates of spares and a disc front end..... plus a Breva 1100 that I barely ride anymore, but love too much to sell for the $$ they command.  Hoping when this one finally rolls out you'll be ready, willing, and able to do another one! (in 1/5th of the time!)
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Re: The "1200 Ambassador" lives.
« Reply #20 on: January 03, 2025, 08:38:02 AM »
I love this so much and have followed along as your updates have come...  I have a barn-ish Ambo sitting in my garage with crates of spares and a disc front end..... plus a Breva 1100 that I barely ride anymore, but love too much to sell for the $$ they command.  Hoping when this one finally rolls out you'll be ready, willing, and able to do another one! (in 1/5th of the time!)

I'm not sure I ever want to do another. Extremely time consuming and as a result, quite expensive. As I ease into semi retirement, I plan to cut back on the amount of paying work I do and try to get more of my own projects done.
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Re: The "1200 Ambassador" lives.
« Reply #21 on: January 03, 2025, 11:02:38 AM »
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Re: The "1200 Ambassador" lives.
« Reply #22 on: January 03, 2025, 11:35:05 AM »
I'm not retired just yet, will be "semi-retiring" at some point in the next year or two. I haven't been keeping a cumulative total of the hours, but just guessing at least 150 of actually doing something, plus probably that much again (non-billable) thinking, planning, searching, etc.

Some photos from last night. Hanging parts to make sure everything still fits, mounting up some DBs to see if anything needs to be changed.













Looks great! Good to see another set of DB bags.
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Re: The "1200 Ambassador" lives.
« Reply #23 on: January 03, 2025, 03:03:27 PM »
Very nice, loving the concept, and great execution!
That’s exactly what my comment was going to be…. :bow: :thumb: :popcorn:

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Re: The "1200 Ambassador" lives.
« Reply #24 on: January 03, 2025, 04:57:17 PM »
Looks great! Good to see another set of DB bags.

I have two more Loop sets - green ones that were "smoothed" by Cam3512, and a black pair with a hole rubbed through one.
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Re: The "1200 Ambassador" lives.
« Reply #25 on: January 04, 2025, 12:17:42 PM »
Do I see wine/whiskey barrels in the background?
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« Reply #26 on: January 04, 2025, 01:47:11 PM »
Do I see wine/whiskey barrels in the background?

That's my woodstove. Bottom barrel is a stainless steel one that had ink in it originally, the top one is just a regular 55 gallon drum.
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« Reply #27 on: January 19, 2025, 09:10:13 PM »
Very nice execution Charlie. :thumb:
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« Reply #28 on: January 22, 2025, 04:10:35 PM »
What is the round silver canister behind the battery?
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« Reply #29 on: January 22, 2025, 06:27:14 PM »
What is the round silver canister behind the battery?

Fuel filter with the (blue) pump under it.
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