1977 850-T3 delayed idle issues.

[n3303j]

I feel just the opposite.

I hop on the old bike and see no reason why it shouldn't take me anywhere I choose. It's only a bunch of solid metal parts moving in a fixed relationship. If they are thick and hard enough they will continue in their proper relationship until they wear out of shape.

On a new bike there are so many additional parts supporting the process. They can be effected by moisture, heat, improper voltage, corrosion, vibration etcetera. They are the product of the lowest bidder. If any one fails its job the whole system shuts down in sympathy. I'm always amazed when a new technology bike finishes a journey.

[wirespokes]

.My theory is that there was a great jump in modernity in the bikes built in the late 60 s and 70s,everything since is fluff.

That's how I feel as well. It's like the pinnacle was reached in the 80s or early 90s, and then they kept fiddling with the design making "improvements" to sell new bikes. So now there's all kinds of unnecessary fooforall we're stuck with making the machines more complex and difficult to repair. In fact, I even de-link my brakes not wanting the front automatically coming on when it's not needed or desired.