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Offline Bob Wegman

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Leaking manual petcock on EV
« on: August 02, 2025, 03:39:53 PM »
The manual after market petcock I have on my 2002 EV is leaking.  I would replace it if they were available, but they are out of stock at MG cycle.  There are 2 o rings inside.  Anybody here know the size and material if these o rings?
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Re: Leaking manual petcock on EV
« Reply #1 on: August 02, 2025, 04:23:36 PM »

      Size wise I cant help but the best material is Nitrile otherwise known as Buna -N.  Most hydraulic shops carry them.

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Re: Leaking manual petcock on EV
« Reply #2 on: August 02, 2025, 04:54:20 PM »
The new manual petcock I bought from MG Cycle leaked within a week of installation.

I would think Viton o-rings to be superior to Nitrile.

I'm thinking about something a bit better made like a Pingel. The 6000 series can be configured with an M16 adapter nut, but the outlet is too small. If they could fit it with a larger (11 mm?) outlet it would be perfect.
http://www.pingelonline.com/Fuel-Valves/power-flo-single-outlet-reserve-fuel-valve.asp



 
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Re: Leaking manual petcock on EV
« Reply #3 on: August 02, 2025, 05:01:36 PM »
Mine leaked on the threads for mounting & I used Loctite #518, its a product to stop fuel. Used it on Aprilia fuel tank flange oring, Norge rubber gasket for fuel flange and rubber on top of Stelvio tank for early bodywork. It is a gell & doesn't harden.

I used it on the threads of coupling, no leaks years after use.
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Offline Bob Wegman

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Re: Leaking manual petcock on EV
« Reply #4 on: August 02, 2025, 05:18:19 PM »
Thanks for the help.  I have it apart and will try some Viton seals if I can figure which ones will fit best.  I will let you know if it works. If not I will hide in the corner.
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Re: Leaking manual petcock on EV
« Reply #5 on: August 02, 2025, 08:51:50 PM »
"Buna seals do offer superior abrasion and tear resistance and are more suitable for heavy-duty industrial applications."

"Viton seals hold indefinitely at temperatures up to 400°F and can last up to 48 hours at temperatures up to 600°F. Buna is effective to 250°F. However, it can effectively seal mechanical objects at low temperatures to –22°F. Viton seals are rendered ineffective at temperatures below 5°F, with the material becoming hard and inflexible."

Good bit of information:

https://www.manuf-rubber.com/news/buna-vs-viton-seals-whats-the-difference/
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Re: Leaking manual petcock on EV
« Reply #6 on: August 04, 2025, 05:06:32 PM »
I have a used one and if the gaskets are good, I could send them to you. But, I cannot get the thing apart. Circlip
 off, unscrew the nut but it will not come off. It unwinds but then just spins. Italian devilry. Is there a trick I am missing? It should be a no brainer.
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Re: Leaking manual petcock on EV
« Reply #7 on: August 07, 2025, 07:23:29 AM »
Thank you for the offer.  I replaced the manual petcock with the original part minus the electrical solenoid.  I  installed a bolt into the threads which held the solenoid.  I will investigate an inline valve so I can remove the tank without draining it.  No leaks at this time.  So, this is a partial solution.
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Re: Leaking manual petcock on EV
« Reply #8 on: August 07, 2025, 08:08:50 AM »
The manual after market petcock I have on my 2002 EV is leaking.  I would replace it if they were available, but they are out of stock at MG cycle.  There are 2 o rings inside.  Anybody here know the size and material if these o rings?

This post on the V11 Lemans Forum may help.  These manual taps aren't the greatest, but the below highlights some modifications made to make them more reliable.

https://www.v11lemans.com/forums/topic/21761-manual-fuel-tap-issues/

 


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