Super prices for new 2024 v7s at Cadre Cycle

[bad Chad]

Just an FYI.  Cadre in Cincinnati has 24 Stones in stock, with zero BS fees, for $6500, and Specials for $7000!  They also have the new 26" v7s, but they are or course MSRP.
https://cadrecycle.com/new-moto-guzzi/

They are one of the best dealers in the US in my opinion.

[Clifton]

What are the 2024 Stones and Specials lacking that you get on a 2026 Stone/Special, besides cruise control, and 2 MY older?

[bad Chad]

That’s what internet searches are for.

[AirPirate]

Clifton, here's one difference for the Special: Guage package on the '26 is the standard , offset, single, pod. The '24s have the twin analog guages.
Your welcome. That's what a friendly forum is for.

[Clifton]

Thanks AirPirate, I was just on Guzzi's site trying to figure out the changes and didn't notice changing from twin gauges to the single mentioned for the Special. But I saw it in some 2026 Special images so the same as the Sport it appears, which I don't like as well. Larger airbox, some timing change, and piston cooling so I assume the same increase in power as the Sport for all the 2026 V7's. I could be interested an a 2024 Special if they would swap the spoke wheels for cast off one of the other models but I doubt they'd be willing.

[AirPirate]

I have a 1100 Griso, and I really like the older Special. Don't like the tube type wheels, though. Also, I gotta admit that cruise control is pretty nice. But, the overall looks of the older Special is really nice.
This spring, on day one of a three day ride, I picked up a nail on my Multistrada. 20 minutes later the tire was plugged, and I was on my way. With tubes, I would have been roadside for a lot longer.

[Kev m]

What are the 2024 Stones and Specials lacking that you get on a 2026 Stone/Special, besides cruise control, and 2 MY older?

The biggest thing? A whole new, larger, 52mm throttle body with a separate ECU. That's almost an entirely new EFI system and arguably higher quality.

But a rep from AF1 has already posted there are so many other differences in the chassis other components from the switches to exhaust to controls to.... That it might as well be a completely new bike.

And I haven't checked into the motor mechanically yet.

Honestly I wouldn't consider the current models over the new at this point.

[Clifton]

Thanks for pointing out those meaningful changes Kev m.

[Wild1_OR]

Cadre's website is certainly lacking. They have a showroom tab, but there are no pictures or list of their inventory, so potential customers are unable to browse. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[PeteS]

Cadre's website is certainly lacking. They have a showroom tab, but there are no pictures or list of their inventory, so potential customers are unable to browse. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

These are the bikes they have in stock. Many more than one.

https://cadrecycle.com/new-moto-guzzi/

Pete

[Wild1_OR]

These are the bikes they have in stock. Many more than one.

https://cadrecycle.com/new-moto-guzzi/

Pete

Those are stock images and potential customers want to see the actual bikes being offered. Maybe it's the reason they still have 2024 models.

[kballowe]

I would think that the current crop of V7 bikes are a stable platform.  There may be a host of upgrades for the newest models, but I would not buy the 1st year production.  Just saying.

[blu guzz]

They have a bunch of 24s because they bought them up when they were offered.  This is not without precedent.  When Piaggio wanted to move out a bunch of the older V9 series, Cadre bought a bunch of those and offered them at blow out prices.  $6500 is the price of a Royal Enfield for goodness sake.  You are right about the single gage now being standard across the V7 line.  It is a shame because the new V7s are so good looking otherwise.

[Kev m]

I would think that the current crop of V7 bikes are a stable platform.  There may be a host of upgrades for the newest models, but I would not buy the 1st year production.  Just saying.

I have, so many times it's not funny (and not a problem).

That said, the EFI system is the single biggest change and it basically comes from the V85. Just saying.

[Dave Swanson]

  You are right about the single gauge now being standard across the V7 line.  It is a shame because the new V7s are so good looking otherwise.

My feeble WAG on the loss of the twin clocks is that they were not compatible the new electronics suite.  This is based on no inside product knowledge whatsoever, but hey, its the internet.   

[bad Chad]

Wild1, all I will say is, “a horse may be led to water…”.

[Wild1_OR]

Wild1, all I will say is, “a horse may be led to water…”.

It certainly won't drink if it can't see the water.

Anyway, I wish them the best with their sale.

[ridingron]

If, as mentioned above, they bought a bunch of bikes as a clearance move by someone (Guzzi or other dealers), they are stock bikes as seen all over the internet. What do you want to see, the shelves, other bikes or salesmen/customers in the background? This is a Guzzi forum. People here are mostly familiar with the bikes and more interested in the prices than pretty pictures.

[Wild1_OR]

If, as mentioned above, they bought a bunch of bikes as a clearance move by someone (Guzzi or other dealers), they are stock bikes as seen all over the internet. What do you want to see, the shelves, other bikes or salesmen/customers in the background? This is a Guzzi forum. People here are mostly familiar with the bikes and more interested in the prices than pretty pictures.

I didn't realize the sale strictly targets the Moto Guzzi forum. It seems like offering them to already Moto Guzzi owners is a narrow scope, especially when attempting to unload motorcycles.
I also wondered why other motorcycle and auto dealerships waste the time and effort of photographing vehicles they offer, when they can use stock photos too and expect people to know what they're purchasing.

[ridingron]

I doubt the sale is strictly targeted at this forum. Yes, those are stock photos. If you want more photos and information, go to the Guzzi US web site. They have all the glossy pictures and info about the bikes. I would say there isn't a lot of foot traffic considering what their location on a google map looks like. They have a pretty good reputation and a loyal following. Their business model seems to be working for them. I don't think I've been within 500 miles of the place so don't think I have a special interest in the business.

If you think your business model would work better, open a dealership.   

[bad Chad]

Wild1, why are you fighting this battle??

If you or anyone, anywhere are interested in exactly what stock on hand, all need be done is make a phone call, or send them an email. From experience, I can tell you they will get right back to you with whatever you need, photos, vin numbers etc.

And, as pointed out, they aren’t targeting “moto Guzzi forum”,  it’s the dealers website we are discussing. 

Now I have said enough, I’m laying down my pen/sword and leaving this fight. 😂  I wish you well.

[kballowe]

I'm thinking that Cadre adds $550 ? freight to that price, and a $50 doc fee.  The last couple I bought from them, anyway,

Veterans get another $500 discount.

[kingoffleece]

Maybe some of the bikes are still in the crate
Anyway, when they come out, the look JUST like the picture.  Imagine that.

[blu guzz]

I rode the new V7 Sport yesterday and in discussing specifics, the freight is now $800.  This is where they have tucked in the tariff charges instead of raising the base cost of the bikes, I was told. 

[Dave Swanson]

This Special is what I would go for.  Last of the twin clocks (almost) and looks the business. 

[PeteS]

I am looking at a new V100. The few places I contacted said freight on those is going up to $1000 but on current bikes its still $800. No doubt dealers can use that number to negotiate.

Pete

[Dave Swanson]

Just an FYI.  Cadre in Cincinnati has 24 Stones in stock

Gutsy on Enzo's part to get 24 of them, and maybe just a bit hoggish.   

[Clifton]

Off topic but regarding price "adjustments" I was talking with the manager of an all Japanese plus KTM store about a KTM 390 Enduro R. He said they're selling them for $7,299. Their cost now including tariff is $6,960, MSRP is $5,500. When asked he didn't know from where the tariff was based because it was made in India yet purchased from KTM Austria.

[Wild1_OR]

Wild1, why are you fighting this battle??

If you or anyone, anywhere are interested in exactly what stock on hand, all need be done is make a phone call, or send them an email. From experience, I can tell you they will get right back to you with whatever you need, photos, vin numbers etc.

And, as pointed out, they aren’t targeting “moto Guzzi forum”,  it’s the dealers website we are discussing. 

Now I have said enough, I’m laying down my pen/sword and leaving this fight. 😂  I wish you well.

I'm not fighting any "battle". I simply made an observation and you felt a need to fiercely defend them with your "sword".

I genuinely wish you well too.

Maybe some of the bikes are still in the crate
Anyway, when they come out, the look JUST like the picture.  Imagine that.

Imagine if other motorcycle and auto dealerships tried not posting pictures and instead said, "trust me, it's just like the stock picture, so hand over your money." There's a reason they have at least one on the showroom floor.

Anyway, we all have our shopping habits and it's fine. Mine is to want to see what I'm purchasing before dropping a few thousand on the table. Happy riding!

[red stripeguz]

I am also in the, "show me an actual pic, not a stock photo" camp. Sitting here trying to come up with an explanation why I can't quite decide, it's just my gut feeling