Rear wheel removal V7 Special 850

[Cal3Me]

Say it isn't so ,,,,,, do I have to remove the rear drive unit to remove my rear wheel that has a flat tire on it on my 850 soecial. I have already buggered up two hex factory fasteners trying to break things loose.

[Dirk_S]

What can’t you break loose?

[Kev m]

You don't have to remove the rear drive on any of the 750 models, so probably not, but I haven't done it yet on a new 850.

[buck]

The rear drive does not need to be pulled. Jack up the bike, remove the brake caliper pin in the swing arm, remove the axle and slide the wheel off of the drive flanges. I can’t remember if stock mufflers get in the way of removing the axle (my bike has agostinis), but you might have to remove a muffler. Not difficult at all.

[Cal3Me]

The problem is the brake the brake caliper pin and the rear drive fingers are in the way and the fat tire does not clear them. But now the mention of removing the caliper pin that might give me the room I need. I'll report back if this works ,,,,,,,, fingers crossed.

TIA

[Dirk_S]

Removing the caliper pin and dropping the caliper is indeed essential (along with removing the left shock), and is shown in the service manual.

[Kev m]

A buddy of mine supports the bike, then unbolts BOTH shocks and he made brackets to reattach/hold the shocks so the axle sits just below the exhaust. Thereby he doesn't touch the exhaust.

[Moparnut72]

I don't know about the 850 but with the 3 series it helps to deflate the tire, but in this case the tire is already flat. Once you get the leak fixed and beads seated let the air back out. Makes it a little easier to get the wheel back in. Securing the rubber cushions with some type of adhesive will help towards maintaining G rated vocabulary. 
kk

[guzzisteve]

Helps to let air out of tire also to let it slide through.

Beat me to it

[Bulldog9]

Say it isn't so ,,,,,, do I have to remove the rear drive unit to remove my rear wheel that has a flat tire on it on my 850 soecial. I have already buggered up two hex factory fasteners trying to break things loose.

***********EDITED FOR LESS IDIOCY............. ....***************

After attempting to un____ this, I'm just gonna go stand in the corner............

[faffi]

I believe the V9 has the same width rear tire of 150 mm (theoretically), and it is a PITA to fit. I now use a 140/90 instead of the stock 150/80 on my V9, and even that needs some gentle persuasion to move over the final drive. I also place my bike on a block of wood under the center stand, then remove both mufflers because it is easier than anything else. Shocks stay in place. IIRC, I only remove the pin of the rear brake unit. Biggest pain is refitting the wheel with rubber cushions onto the final drive, but a little bit of glue or silicone to keep them rubbers in place makes life much easier less annoying. AFAIK, the V9 and V7 850 are pretty similar in overall design, but just about every detail is different.

[Kev m]

1. Remove Cotter Pin and loosen castellated nut

You lost me at "cotter" what and "castellated" who?!?

[Dirk_S]

You lost me at "cotter" what and "castellated" who?!?

Yeah, Bulldog. You sure your Guzzi isn’t actually a KLR that somebody slapped an Eagle sticker on?

[Bulldog9]

You lost me at "cotter" what and "castellated" who?!?

You know, one of these.... https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.tcfixings.co.uk%2Fimages%2Fproduct_image%2FNCAUNF118.jpg&f=1&nofb=1&ipt=c9aa40a60a9980bfaa1423855d7be778dffa4b150ccfb92a3907434a5f807ada

  Sorry, crossing genre's...... My XS bikes have the castellated nut and cotter pin............. 45 years working on that bike, only 10 on Guzzi's. It's all mixed in a bunch of mush........... 

[Bulldog9]

Yeah, Bulldog. You sure your Guzzi isn’t actually a KLR that somebody slapped an Eagle sticker on?

Ah.............. and I can't even blame it on bourbon or lack of coffee............. .. Just a brain fart and conflation.  The XS bike and the Guzzi's are all shaft drives and have similar azle changing procedures..... I've done it 20 times on the XS bikes and only 5-6 on my Guzzi's and 3 of them are CARC bikes with SSSA.

[Cal3Me]

Solved .......... as mentioned on this discussion list lots of ideas and knowledge. As it turns out all you 850 owners need to do is remove the caliper pin. And then the fat 150 tire goes right in, a third hand would be nice to help hold the tire while someone slides the axle, spacer and caliper bracket in. I did remove both mufflers just in case though. I used a little light grease on the rubbers to help slide the wheel on. Not one time did the rubbers ever come out even while the new tire was being mounted. I did have to replace one allen head bolt because it rounded off the points



 trying to remove it.

Thanks to one & all for the tips & tricks , carry on