Quickshifter for V85?

[inditx]

Anyone had any experience with this one or others?
https://www.motoracingshop.com/en/quick-shifter-healtech-for-moto-guzzi-v85-tt-19-21.html
inditx

[Huzo]

Anyone had any experience with this one or others?
https://www.motoracingshop.com/en/quick-shifter-healtech-for-moto-guzzi-v85-tt-19-21.html
inditx

Not me and I never will. It’s torture on the mechanicals and will quietly go about the business of damaging the gear dogs .
It slams the next gear in before the motor has the chance to drop the required revs to suit the new ratio and the spinning flywheel is forced to drop 1,000 or so rpm in half a second without the cushioning effect of the clutch disengaging.

[Bulldog9]

Not me and I never will. It’s torture on the mechanicals and will quietly go about the business of damaging the gear dogs .
It slams the next gear in before the motor has the chance to drop the required revs to suit the new ratio and the spinning flywheel is forced to drop 1,000 or so rpm in half a second without the cushioning effect of the clutch disengaging.

100% agree

[davethewelder]

I had a V85TT, with only 75 HP QS isn't going to help, besides you won't get to hear the clunk that we all enjoy while riding a Moto Guzzi.

[PeteS]

I am hardly an expert on quick shifters. A few months ago I didn’t know what they did nor what they looked like. I had to ask here what was the device mounted on my new V100. I also have a new 2025 V85. Having played some with the quick shifter I can say I wished my V85 had one. But I think their only real application is for drag racing. Hold the throttle WFO and hit the shifter at what you think the best RPM to do so. It shifts gears faster than any automatic.
Down shifting or shifting at less than full throttle the shifts are no where as smooth. Its not a way to make a manual transmission into an automatic. So unless you want to go racing, forget about it.
The reason I think the V85 could use one is it takes longer to pull in the clutch, shift gears, and let out the clutch while backing off the throttle and reapplying throttle than its takes my V85 to accelerate through that gear, at least the first four.

Pete

[azccj]

The first bike I owned with a quick-shifter was my 2023 V100 Mandello S. And having used it I thought, what's the big dealer with this quick-shifter thing. Nearly every time I used it, I thought the transmission was going to fall out of the bike. It was jerky and not at all smooth no matter how I used it. Then I bought a Husqvarna Norden 901 which has the same engine as the KTM 890 Adventure. That bike has an excellent quick-shifter, smooth both up and down. Very handy to use when off road. Then I bought a Suzuki GSX-S1000GT which also comes with a quick-shifter. This bike has the slickest quick-shifter yet. So smooth that most of the time up-shifting can't be felt and the only way you can tell the bike has changed gears is a slight change in the exhaust tone and a slight dip in the RPMs on the tach. I use the quick-shifters all the time on both the Norden 901 and the Suzuki. When I owned the V100 I rarely used the quick-shifter for fear that doing so would damage the bike's internals.

[inditx]

Great replies, thanks
I was wanting to use the clutch less as I age but it sounds like an A/S at least with the Guzzi is not the answer
inditx

[inditx]

I am hardly an expert on quick shifters. A few months ago I didn’t know what they did nor what they looked like. I had to ask here what was the device mounted on my new V100. I also have a new 2025 V85. Having played some with the quick shifter I can say I wished my V85 had one. But I think their only real application is for drag racing. Hold the throttle WFO and hit the shifter at what you think the best RPM to do so. It shifts gears faster than any automatic.
Down shifting or shifting at less than full throttle the shifts are no where as smooth. Its not a way to make a manual transmission into an automatic. So unless you want to go racing, forget about it.
The reason I think the V85 could use one is it takes longer to pull in the clutch, shift gears, and let out the clutch while backing off the throttle and reapplying throttle than its takes my V85 to accelerate through that gear, at least the first four.

Pete

Did you test ride a new Stelvio by chance?
Can you compare the 2025 V85 to older models by chance?
Thanks
inditx

[PeteS]

Great replies, thanks
I was wanting to use the clutch less as I age but it sounds like an A/S at least with the Guzzi is not the answer
inditx

Can’t comment on the one you are looking for but with the one Guzzi uses on the V100 you can use or not. Pulling in the clutch disables the quick shifter. There is no downside to having it available.

Pete

[PeteS]

Did you test ride a new Stelvio by chance?
Can you compare the 2025 V85 to older models by chance?
Thanks
inditx

I didn’t ride a Stelvio but crossed it off the list after sitting on it. Its taller and heavier than the V85 and the Triumph 800XC I was looking to replace.
The V85 is a great all around bike for me at this point. The V100 fills my need for speed if not a long distance touring bike.

Pete

[inditx]

Thanks PeteS
inditx

[bad Chad]

Not me and I never will. It’s torture on the mechanicals and will quietly go about the business of damaging the gear dogs .
It slams the next gear in before the motor has the chance to drop the required revs to suit the new ratio and the spinning flywheel is forced to drop 1,000 or so rpm in half a second without the cushioning effect of the clutch disengaging.

“Get off my lawn you Dam kids!!”   
I don’t want any dam electronic ignition, all it’s going to do is break!”

Sometimes we all need to take a moment and relax.

[Huzo]

“Get off my lawn you Dam kids!!”   
I don’t want any dam electronic ignition, all it’s going to do is break!”

Sometimes we all need to take a moment and relax.

You have no idea what my point actually was.
 Quoting from a Clint Eastwood movie does nothing to support an argument opposing my point of view.
If you want to engage me with a factual based argument I’ll respond, but to enter with a banal comment like that does nothing, other than to reinforce an existing point of view.
Electronic ignition, disc brakes, better tyres, superior lights and all that stuff, is a welcome addition to our quality of existence and does nothing to the detriment of the machine.
A quick shifter on the other hand does, it’s only pandering to the fantasy that most riders have, that they are good enough to benefit from such a feature.
Please tell me why getting your gear through half a second faster to the detriment of gearbox longevity, holds any perceived advantage.
Then tell me where my reasoning is flawed, regarding the damage that will be cumulatively inflicted on the gearbox innards, without resorting to any lame analogies or misapplied anecdotal points of view.
Also by the way…
It’s “damned kids…”
not “Dam kids…”
Dam kids are kids that exist in a dam.
“Damned kids” are kids that are destined to be damned.

[inditx]

Sorry Huzo, all I meant was less clutch could be good on older hands that have arthritis rearing it’s ugly head.
I am not using an A/S to drag race or for track days, I do neither of those, at least not anymore.
inditx

[Huzo]

Sorry Huzo, all I meant was less clutch could be good on older hands that have arthritis rearing it’s ugly head.
I am not using an A/S to drag race or for track days, I do neither of those, at least not anymore.
inditx

Well there’s no need for apology inditx.
The benefit of not needing to use a clutch would doubtless be beneficial under those circumstances.

[kingoffleece]

My 2022 snicks into and out of gears as well as any motorcycle I've ever ridden.  It's super smooth with ZERO clunk.

[MikeP996]

I've had several modern bikes that came with quick shifters.  TBH, I don't really see any benefit for street riding.  If I had to pay more for the quick shifter option, I wouldn't.  Of course nowadays many bikes have optional "packages" that include a bunch things that you may not want/need to get the ONE thing you might want!!  That was the case when I bought my BMW R1200RS a few years ago.  I had the choice of custom ordering the bike - months-long wait - or riding one out of the dealer showroom with the max package which had mostly stuff I didn't want/don't use.  If the issue is to use the clutch less, I'd buy a new Honda E-clutch bike.  The E-clutch seems to be the perfect "solution" to either use the clutch or not!