V7 II wire wheel sealing

[egschade]

Do the V7 II's with spoke rims have safety beads? I sealed my V85 rims and converted to tubeless with good results - effectively 0 pressure loss between rides - and would like to do the same on a Stornello. Yes, I'll find out when I pull the old tires off but would like to know in advance so I can skip ordering new tubes.

[Dirk_S]

Yep, all of the V7 small block wheels have a safety bead. I don’t know for sure, but I’d bet that MT rim style on the small blocks goes back at least to the early 2000s with the Breva and Nevada. Before 2003, they might’ve been all the beadless WM style.

[Bulldog9]

Do the V7 II's with spoke rims have safety beads? I sealed my V85 rims and converted to tubeless with good results - effectively 0 pressure loss between rides - and would like to do the same on a Stornello. Yes, I'll find out when I pull the old tires off but would like to know in advance so I can skip ordering new tubes.

They do have the safety bead. I'm going to do the rear tire on my Stornello this spring. The front Shinko 705 still has at least 5k miles on it. I'll replace the rear with a new 705 and run tubeless. Then when I replace the front, will do the kit on it too, and put street classics on the Stornello.

[egschade]

Thanks for the feedback. I have the 3M tape, just need to get the marine sealant for the spoke nipples. Do you have any preference? I used Sikaflex-221 last time and it seemed to work fine.

[Dirk_S]

I’d avoid any fast cure types, as at least in my applications, they’re often a bit too aerated, and I’ve had to go back, slice into them, and top up with more sealant. Out of the sealants I’ve tried—3M (both their semi- and permanent sealant, which can be removed from the aluminum/alloy wheels without too much fuss), Loctite, and Tiger Seal, I liked the Tiger Seal the best. NO IDEA how well it’ll come off, but it is one that’s been used by others, so you should be able to find other experiences elsewhere online.

I think a good chunk of the reason I liked my experience with Tiger Seal is that instead of covering just the nipples, I spread it across the entire well. It adds a little more to the rotating mass, but the chance of a leak is lessened. I imagine the 3M or Loctite non-fast cure sealant spread across the well would yield similar positive results.

[egschade]

I’d avoid any fast cure types, as at least in my applications, they’re often a bit too aerated, and I’ve had to go back, slice into them, and top up with more sealant. Out of the sealants I’ve tried—3M (both their semi- and permanent sealant, which can be removed from the aluminum/alloy wheels without too much fuss), Loctite, and Tiger Seal, I liked the Tiger Seal the best. NO IDEA how well it’ll come off, but it is one that’s been used by others, so you should be able to find other experiences elsewhere online.

I think a good chunk of the reason I liked my experience with Tiger Seal is that instead of covering just the nipples, I spread it across the entire well. It adds a little more to the rotating mass, but the chance of a leak is lessened. I imagine the 3M or Loctite non-fast cure sealant spread across the well would yield similar positive results.

With my V85 I sealed the nipples then once fully cured, went over the top with the 3M tape.

[Dirk_S]

With my V85 I sealed the nipples then once fully cured, went over the top with the 3M tape.

That’s a popular way of doing it, and David Petersen, the owner of BestRest Products, has a good video tutorial up on YouTube showing that same setup. I did that on my first couple wheels, and yet I’ve still gotten a couple leaks at some point. It’s almost 99% likely my own fault for not prep’ing the wheel perfectly (or maybe I just ride in more rain), but I still think covering the entire well yields an even better chance of success before deciding whether or not to include the sealant tape. I’m not as careful as I probably ought to be when it comes to prep, so you’ll probably have more consistent results than I have with the seal-per-nipple method.

[Bulldog9]

I was planning on using the outex kit and then once cured throw a bottle of rideon sealant inside.

[bigbikerrick]

I have done that to 4 Guzzis. 3 with borranis,and one with the chromed  steel wheels. I used  3M 5100 marine sealant,(expensive) and on the other 2 I used regular GE  silicone caulking. All of them have sealed up perfectly, for over 10 years.
Rick

[Guzzidad]

    I've only ever sealed the rims once, on a 2004 Triumph Tiger. So that was 20 years ago. Maybe I just got lucky. I used Permatex Hi-Temp RTV and nothing else, no tape. More than 60K miles and no leaks.