Is this a good deal?

[nwguy]

A little while ago I test rode a 2020 MG V85 TT with only about 5,600 miles on it. It's from a dealer and they want $7k for it. No warranty included. They estimated $8k out the door with fees and licensing. It has the bags and a centerstand.

I understand it has tubed wheels, and could use a front wheel fender extender. I also read these threads on room for improvement and reliability:

https://wildguzzi.com/forum/index.php?topic=114972.0

https://www.guzzitech.com/forums/threads/v85tt-reliability.22256/

The dealer said it had been stored indoors, but I saw rust on a few bolts (see pics). I know I can just treat the rust with a coating that I have. There was also an inordinate amount of dirt/grime under the seat (see pic).

The clutch cable adjuster by the lever was screwed pretty far out (see pic). I neglected to look at the lower adjustment sleeve, but I wonder why it needed to be screwed so far out.

The tires looked good, but they may be original.

Not sure what recalls might be required, or if they are done. Might not reliably be able to determine if any have been done.

Anyway opinions on if this is a good deal? With only 5k miles on it, seems effectively new, though must have been sitting a lot.

[kingoffleece]

That is too much for my liking to pay.

[inditx]

Cadre Cycle in Cincinatti has a new 2025 for $8,950
inditx

[TN Mark]

So, $2k more for a new, 5 year newer, bike with a warranty. Plus whatever the differences are between the 2020 and the 2025 version.

Seems like a Fy In N Ride Home conversion is needed with the good folks at Cadre Cycle.

[Perazzimx14]

Is $8,250 OTD or do you still need to add tax, tag and fee's onto $8,250?

Either way it is my opinion that 7K OTD for the 6 year old V85TT would be too much 7K plus tax, tags and fees is a non starter.

[rocker59]

The visible corrosion on those bolts would bother me.

The tube-type wheels would bother me.

I'd spend a couple thousand more and buy a new or newer one with tubeless wheels.

[Cam3512]

Definitely too high.  Mine’s a 2020 and I had to buy tubeless wheels.

[MikeP996]

Sounds too expensive!  The tube wheels doesn't bother me - My BMW R1200RS has tubeless wheels but all my other motorcycles have spoke/tube wheels.  But that, of course, is a personal preference thing; if you don't want spokes/tubes, don't buy a bike with them!  I agree with others that the price is too high considering the price of a new one.

[nwguy]

Yeah, I was feeling it was too high. Thanks for confirming this.

[Vagrant]

All above correct and there is still a chance it is one of the ones with bad rings. 21-23 in good shape go for $7000 all the time.

[nwguy]

All above correct and there is still a chance it is one of the ones with bad rings. 21-23 in good shape go for $7000 all the time.

I read about the rings issue. Pretty off-putting.

[Bulldog9]

A little while ago I test rode a 2020 MG V85 TT with only about 5,600 miles on it. It's from a dealer and they want $7k for it. No warranty included. They estimated $8k out the door with fees and licensing. It has the bags and a centerstand.

I understand it has tubed wheels, and could use a front wheel fender extender. I also read these threads on room for improvement and reliability:

https://wildguzzi.com/forum/index.php?topic=114972.0

https://www.guzzitech.com/forums/threads/v85tt-reliability.22256/

The dealer said it had been stored indoors, but I saw rust on a few bolts (see pics). I know I can just treat the rust with a coating that I have. There was also an inordinate amount of dirt/grime under the seat (see pic).

The clutch cable adjuster by the lever was screwed pretty far out (see pic). I neglected to look at the lower adjustment sleeve, but I wonder why it needed to be screwed so far out.

The tires looked good, but they may be original.

Not sure what recalls might be required, or if they are done. Might not reliably be able to determine if any have been done.

Anyway opinions on if this is a good deal? With only 5k miles on it, seems effectively new, though must have been sitting a lot.

That's a $5500 - 6000 bike.

[nwguy]

I thought about offering $5k. It's been listed quite a while.

[Cam3512]

I thought about offering $5k. It's been listed quite a while.

Can’t hurt!

[Perazzimx14]

I thought about offering $5k. It's been listed quite a while.

Make sure whatever offer you offer it is OTD. A savvy dealer will graciously accept your 5K off then jack up and/or add more fee's to cover the profit margin.

[Motormike]

All that rust on a low mileage bike?  Flood damage?  Stored outdoors in a very damp climate?  Florida beach riding (salt air)?  I wouldn't go near it.  Just think what some of the electrical connections might look like.

[guzzisteve]

Did you give up on the V11?

[Perazzimx14]

All that rust on a low mileage bike?  Flood damage?  Stored outdoors in a very damp climate?  Florida beach riding (salt air)?  I wouldn't go near it.  Just think what some of the electrical connections might look like.

I just bought a 16 year old 2 owner bike with 2,280 miles on it and it has some fasteners with rust and corrosion. It lived inside and rarely even saw the light of day but still some of the fasteners have corrosion and any scrapes on things like the side stand have rusted. The bike was not a flood bike but it lived in Virginia where I'm sure humidity was the big factor.

The biggest bother is the dealer has chosen not to spend a few minutes to clean up some of the worst offender and make the bike more presentable. Looking at the pic with the seat off the bike is filthy. A few minutes of effort and $2 worth of some Back to Black and the dealer could have a dirty crusty bike looking 1000X better. If asking a premium they should at least put in a little effort to make it present as a premium product.

[nwguy]

Did you give up on the V11?

No. Stay tuned.

[azccj]

All that rust on a low mileage bike?  Flood damage?  Stored outdoors in a very damp climate?  Florida beach riding (salt air)?  I wouldn't go near it.  Just think what some of the electrical connections might look like.

If the bike was used in western Washington by the coast, I can see how it got that rusted in that few miles. I spend my summers right on the Pacific coast of Washington, about 1100 feet from the ocean. Every night the fog roles in and coats everything with ocean mist. And anything made of metal gets soaked even without any fog as the humidity is always in the 90%+ range. I've brought 2 new bikes there for the summers and within 1 month they both had more corrosion than a bike kept in the Phoenix area for 25 years. The front brake calipers on my V-Strom 650 are so corroded that it isn't possible to charge out the pads because the pistons won't retract into their bores. I have a near new sets of calipers to replace the originals when the pads are completely worn out. Bike currently has over 64,000 miles on its original pads. 60,000 of that are WA miles.

I've found that chain wax chain lube works very well in keeping the bike's bolts and other exposed metal parts rust free. For larger metal areas, like on travel trailers frames, A product called Fluid Film works great for keeping metal rust free.

[blu guzz]

Keep in mind that the earliest 2020s came out in June/2019, so are going on 7 seasons now.  At the stated mileage, they are probably the original tires as I routinely got about 9,000 on a set of the Anakees with mine.  I wouldn't use them any more but I am conservative with tires. The one I had was trouble free for 25,000 miles in 4 seasons, but ymmv.  I agree with the others that the price seems a bit high and would explain why they have had it for a while. 
Whether you decide to get this one or another, they are great bikes.  I rank it in my top 3 in 45 years of riding and would still have it if my legs had not shrunk.  In fact, I saw that same bike last year with about 40,000 and the new owner said he still had never had a problem.

[Perazzimx14]

Keep in mind that the earliest 2020s came out in June/2019, so are going on 7 seasons now.  At the stated mileage, they are probably the original tires as I routinely got about 9,000 on a set of the Anakees with mine.  I wouldn't use them any more but I am conservative with tires. The one I had was trouble free for 25,000 miles in 4 seasons, but ymmv.  I agree with the others that the price seems a bit high and would explain why they have had it for a while. 
Whether you decide to get this one or another, they are great bikes.  I rank it in my top 3 in 45 years of riding and would still have it if my legs had not shrunk.  In fact, I saw that same bike last year with about 40,000 and the new owner said he still had never had a problem.

I'd hope any modern road/touring type motorcycle would be problem free at only 40,000 miles. Really it should just be getting broken in.

[DC950]

I guess I've changed so many flats on DS bikes in NM that tubes don't bother me at all.  This stuff works extremely well:

https://www.amerseal.com/

Long story short, I got a flat on the road with no tools while testing my KTM after working on it.  My wife had to come get me.  The next day I pumped up the tire just to move the bike around.  3 years later I'm still working on it, but that tire hasn't lost any air.

There's a very good racetrack test of 10 year old tires on You Tube that essentially proves age is not an issue.  I have 15(!) year old nearly worn out Dunlops that aren't even made any more on my Tuono.  They were on there when I bought it last year.  I ride her the way she was intended - the 190 rear is scrubbed a 1/4 inch inch from the edge.  They work fine in other words.

If the tires aren't cracked and aren't particularly slick, don't worry about them.  Just take it easy at first and if possible, ride them in some sand or dirt to scrub them.

Buy that thing cheap and ride it hard!